On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:02 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:18:23 +0200 David Seifert wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 08:59 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:32:56 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 09:53 -0400, Brian Evans wrote: > > > > > On 6/9/2019 7:39 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > > +Tracking of user/group usage is done through dependencies. As > > > > > > long > > > > > > +as any installed package depends on a specific user/group > > > > > > package, > > > > > > +the respective user/group is assumed to be used. If no > > > > > > package > > > > > > +requiring the specific user/group is left, the package manager > > > > > > +automatically prunes the package clearly indicating it is no > > > > > > longer > > > > > > +used. > > > > > > > > > > You cannot know when a name is "no longer used". An > > > > > administrator could > > > > > have adopted a username for other purposes. > > > > > > > > That's why we don't remove the actual user/group. However, this is > > > > a valuable information to the administrator that no package is > > > > using > > > > the user/group in question. > > > > > > So how do you propose to clean them up? Or let user systems trash > > > with unused uids/gids? The GLEP 81 only mensions some possible > > > tooling for cleanup. Is there an implementation available? I don't > > > see it within proposed patch sets. > > > > > > This GLEP should not be accepted unless all necessary tools are > > > available including a cleanup tool. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Andrew Savchenko > > > > Strongly disagree: > > > > 1) User systems are already getting trashed. And apparently it's not a > > critical thing that prevents users from using Gentoo in practice. > > 2) A cleanup tool at best will only tell you which files you need to > > check, randomly deleting files with orphaned uids/gids is not a good > > idea. > > What will happen when some acct-*/* package will be unmerged? Will > uid/gid record and/or its files be deteleted? >
They will be marked as unused, locked from access and left in system databases. It's both in the GLEP and in the implementation. All you have to do is to read before complaining. -- Best regards, Michał Górny
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