On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 08:59 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:32:56 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 09:53 -0400, Brian Evans wrote: > > > On 6/9/2019 7:39 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > +Tracking of user/group usage is done through dependencies. As > > > > long > > > > +as any installed package depends on a specific user/group > > > > package, > > > > +the respective user/group is assumed to be used. If no > > > > package > > > > +requiring the specific user/group is left, the package manager > > > > +automatically prunes the package clearly indicating it is no > > > > longer > > > > +used. > > > > > > You cannot know when a name is "no longer used". An > > > administrator could > > > have adopted a username for other purposes. > > > > That's why we don't remove the actual user/group. However, this is > > a valuable information to the administrator that no package is > > using > > the user/group in question. > > So how do you propose to clean them up? Or let user systems trash > with unused uids/gids? The GLEP 81 only mensions some possible > tooling for cleanup. Is there an implementation available? I don't > see it within proposed patch sets. > > This GLEP should not be accepted unless all necessary tools are > available including a cleanup tool. > > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko
Strongly disagree: 1) User systems are already getting trashed. And apparently it's not a critical thing that prevents users from using Gentoo in practice. 2) A cleanup tool at best will only tell you which files you need to check, randomly deleting files with orphaned uids/gids is not a good idea. 3) This proposal strictly increases the quality of Gentoo. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. The fact that the problem isn't solved to 100% doesn't mean that a solution that gets us there 85% should be rejected. Strongly vote +1 to merge this now.
