On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:47:32PM +1000, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 07/11/2017 11:06 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Michael Palimaka <kensing...@gentoo.org> 
> > wrote:
> >> On 07/11/2017 09:29 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Even if such stabilization is allowed, there are unanswered
> >>> questions here:
> >>> - is following seciton 4.1 from wg recommendations is sufficient?
> >>> - should developer test each stabilization candidate on an
> >>> up-to-date stable setup?
> >>
> >> The guidelines from that document are ripped straight out of the
> >> devmanual and are a good starting point but rather generic. You can find
> >> some more detailed suggestions on things to consider while testing on
> >> the wiki: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Package_testing
> >>
> > 
> > I think that in practice arch teams don't do have the stuff on that
> > wiki page.  Maybe some people do, but back when I was an amd64 AT I
> > don't think anybody went testing multiple USE combinations for a
> > typical package.
> 
> Everything on that page is deliberately a suggestion only, and not
> necessarily specific to stabilisation testing.
> 
> In the end, we've never been able to reach any consensus on what exactly
> an arch tester should do. Personally, I think we should just switch to
> fully-automated, build-only testing for stabilistions unless the
> maintainer opts otherwise (something that largely happens in practice
> already). The main risk of breakage of a package moving from testing to
> stable is always at build time anyway.

I would not be opposed to this. As a maintainer, I am as guilty as the
next guy of not filing stable requests or not stabilizing packages.

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