-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 09/06/16 22:15, Michał Górny wrote: > Didn't you just contradict yourself? First you tell that everyone > should have their own public repo... then you tell that we should > merge stuff from those repos. So are you targeting split-repo > model, or central repo model, or...? Everyone should have their own public repository, yes. I want people to be able to grow their own Gentoo as they please. But I'm not suggesting we up and away with our developers and expertise. instead, we should maintain core/base packages, and curated and reviewed small-ish repositories that we feature and recommend using. As such, I'm not suggesting anything that major here. Just encouraging users to put all their stuff public and get more involved with writing and reviewing ebuilds, and, further on, us becoming a bit more modular.
> Does that mean that using Gentoo would involve spending hours on > figuring out which repository supplies a package that happens to be > quite up-to-date, build and not have huge security issues? That's where the mentioned curated and reviewed repositories featured by us come in. > So... are we doing split repos, or now forking Gentoo and expecting > things to magically work when people attempt to merge a dozen > outdated forks of Gentoo? We're not doing anything -- we're just having a discussion. I'm not sure about what you mean by merging outdated forks though. > NixOS doesn't work. It's a huge pile of hacks that create more > problems than they solve. There are quite a lot of people that would disagree vehemently with you, but I can't really address your issues because you are effectively just saying "NixOS sucks lol". Do you have the same concerns with Guix SD? Could you perhaps elaborate on what your concerns actually are? > Exherbo is special. You can talk about everyone having their own > repository when you have to deal with around 10 users who also > happen to be developers. It doesn't scale to Gentoo. I find this unfounded and about as useful as your "argument" against NixOS. Exherbo has one single contribution hub with a common review system for all repositories. I see no reason this shouldn't scale. > I don't really see how this is relevant to Sunrise. I didn't mean to say that it was -- I just think we should involve users, which Sunrise did. > You have no real technical suggestions, or even a clear vision. I > have no clue how your idea is going to work, or if it's even a > single idea. The email was primarily meant to generate discussion, to see what kind of ideas people have in this direction. But I think there are a few more concrete things in here, and I hope there will be more of those. If you have more questions or ideas, then perhaps my answers will help elucidate the "vision", as it were. - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXWm/7AAoJENQqWdRUGk8B37EP/34BGpWb0tF/QHC/9+o7k4EZ 1vbbmeRwIq8nm1A7NI9DzXvI3modlU/luIqSI0zp8aC/p2mM4Ace2evC2rmSr3Ux qeuoSR1L2SbH3/RtnrCi8xw+dZaI9xfMrnGC9+IeeaavKWuxgG0IrKrqHDBbhNzA 0qQZdBS4hf7uWNyU2KdcEPjnQMabsCzNFw6LcSQ9XfTfIdFBohLtdDxux1isfbC0 eYvm+VmZv4ICIlHxZKpgLLXVtzgIU4hW2Lwp9Sqo1i4mRJu7oquETibG3vBfasr9 1vPTE1mGecEykGthuVfzGMwAd2E4uZV2Q8X1RndoLOubKIi4sLWY+olzwbF4XQQR V6XpsFQ4iVwSDphFuRP9hGpl/ePvM6Fujb81D4WThe4+IJ/jo72MKGWnW/+KMUhi Sh6ApdeDjsiEyyI226ArPAJPrKBUvGlVke6kwb5gDFiGc+bwtsntrnzfheVnp3+N deLRPiIEH9sePDUDhuT7kxPPCpUAdzieueoS0JjLN7AD2Lqb5xAUV3bzLikLDkJs m7BYjE+ky/JA6AmEg3uwWnzWW6yNNqpB4uZXZ3VWuHf8KyS69Czrq+oKv7PpR9O3 cn7pCJ8mq2EN7toZXtRiOOHBHXe63Cbb0vcbsDTZQBiSX20pbaSUzofElMZIyKPE 35rKL/DG2RJB5jdsrtPu =fyiM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
