On 06/08/2016 10:54 AM, james wrote: > On 06/08/2016 11:27 AM, Nathan Zachary wrote: >> >>> GitHub Inc. is successful because they host a central location with >>> "all the code on the Internet"; convenient for consumers and >>> producers alike. Of course it is a fallacy, but it's convenient >>> when it works. >>> >>> Ensure that Gentoo accomplishes the same for Gentoo. >>> >>> Do NOT - I repeat NOT - tie "user repos" to GitHub Inc., please do >>> not even bother working on a prototype there (looking at you James), >>> because if it is good enough it will stick, and as the social >>> contract rightfully states, it's important to remain independent, >>> so that Gentoo and Gentoo only can decide what it will offer. > > OK, put me on the spot (actually good) I'm no fan of github, for a > variety of reason. 'bait and switch' in the mantra of modern business. > I just assumed we are stuck with github. > > As an older hack, I more of the C/unix/files type of mindset, not > diffing everything..... Still the diff centric semantics are useful > >>> This is a wonderful idea which would benefit the community >>> tremendously. I wish I had time to implement all of it immediately. >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> //Peter >>> >> I agree with the idea of NOT using GitHub. Though it is a great >> resource, I second the idea that Gentoo should offer the repository >> space in order to stay separate. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan Zachary > > I actually strongly agree with gentoo rolling it's own on the > development site/tools. What we are missing is a distributed file > system and the ability to cluster resources on top of a distributed > file system for this central gentoo system. OrangeFS does look promising > for the dfs. Any number of sys-cluster codes are maturing so that > a system can span resources transparently to the user. From what I'm > learning, if you can go from running gentoo on a server or workstation > to buidling up a dfs on a small gentoo cluster, then you are at the > dev-status-level, imho. > > > Actually (Peter and Zachary) I'm all in on the non-github approach, if > that pathway is defined by gentoo-devs on the team. I do believe in the > cook-book approach before 'gets their wings' with gentoo, being > old-school. Besides it's always nice to look at docuemnts, if you have > not use a particular 'set of tricks' in a while.... > > ymmv. So, I can take it either way, but building something > gentoo-centric, without github, is very appealing too. > > > > James > > There are some of us against GitHub and/or other commercial outfits, so that's not a problem. We offer some mirrors on GitHub, and some devs host things on there, but it's nothing officially endorsed or otherwise required by Gentoo.
In fact I recently deleted my repos and account over the Code of Conduct fiasco, but that's a whole 'nother topic. :P -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6
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