On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 07:34:20PM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> Alexis Ballier schrieb:
> > It would probably generate controversy indeed, but my comment was more
> > to understand what is the root of the f34R of udev being absorbed by
> > systemd: "it is supposedly unsupported upstream and might not work at
> > some point".
> > Well, as far as I can see, you are maintaining sys-fs/udev standalone
> > and don't intend to drop it. Even if you did, we could still pkgmove it
> > to systemd. My conclusion is that this claim of udev being a dead end
> > is pure FUD.
> 
> This claim was made by upstream, no less. And it refers to *running* 
> udev without systemd as opposed to building (which upstream already made 
> impossible).
> 
> Here is the exact wording:
> "Unless the systemd-haters prepare another
> kdbus userspace until then this will effectively also mean that we will
> not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at that
> point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html
> 
> Not sure what about this is FUD.

Maybe FUD is the incorrect way to put it, but I think us doing something
about it at this point is definitely premature since KDBUS is no where
near ready to go -- they were forced to retract it a while back because
they had to re-think the design.

William

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