-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 10/02/16 12:09 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:26:12 -0600 William Hubbs > <willi...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > >>> Often the decision to procrastinate is a decision that is >>> rewarded. That should be considered carefully. >> >> + 10000. >> >> I also saw another issue that made me shudder. If we change >> the default to eudev, people who are running separate /usr are >> going to think they can kill their initramfs's, because people >> in gentoo conflated the separate /usr and initramfs issue with >> udev [1]. >> >> William >> >> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573760#C4 > > That isn't a worthwhile reason to procrastinate. IMO we're going > to get those _ANYWAY_ no matter how long we wait, within reason > of course. > > There will always be users that can't read/type/whatever and fail > and file bugs. > > So if we have to wait for one (or more) users to forget about > the initramfs crud & confusion, we'll be waiting 20 years. By > then even systemd will have been replaced by something else... >
Yeah I second this -- it was decided officially by council (what, 2 years ago now?) that separate-/usr-without-initramfs doesn't need to be officially supported anymore, and so if things break that it is up to end-users to ensure they pick up the pieces. Although it is likely that eudev *will* keep installation onto / and out of /usr to help with this not-officially-supported situation in Gentoo, that doesn't mean the other projects have to stay out of /usr, and "it worked before the upgrade but doesn't now" certainly doesn't mean it's a valid bug. If a user or sysadmin drops their initramfs when they have a separate-/usr system, any resulting breakage is on them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAla74KkACgkQAJxUfCtlWe1cVgD/YCgpgZ9QwN1KXl8G9gPjF3my dW6YnrV9xzISSYpHQkMA/jDNV5epu4bzWDEmIs0g2hx8qNI3lRHMNvcORRD0lNMi =nADF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
