On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 08:19:34 -0700 Matt Turner <matts...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:23 AM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > I'm not a native speaker and people have more than once told you > > that your language is difficult to understand. > > > > So, can you elaborate what your sarcastic (that's how I read it) > > anecdote was meant for then? Preferably off-list, since this doesn't > > seem to help any of us. > > I am a native speaker and I cannot understand what he's saying, for > what it's worth. > > I think he's indicating that the "right" in his earlier message was > indicative of sarcasm, and so then he chides you for responding to his > sarcastic message without knowing it was sarcasm. fwiw how about not sure what you mean by that please re-sate. Better that than misinterpreting and responding to a totally wrong message. This was an innocent accident mostly. .... is to help all us who cannot write ebuilds correctly or proficiently? I generally don't do sarcasm however with this thread it can be hard to avoid. right is ambiguous here. He read it as: all us who cannot write ebuilds, right? or all us who cannot write ebuilds? Right? completely changing the meaning to all us who cannot write ebuilds at all? The sentence started out as a question so finishing with ebuilds right? unfortunately mislead him. Never intended. The sentence was too long. I should have simply stopped it with How exactly may I ask does anyone actually offer help to the Reviewers Project? Confusing or misleading him was never my intent or goal. He has enough of that already. The absurd thing is > that he then says "Please stop taking words out of my mouth and > distorting my message" (which of course you weren't doing), which was > *precisely* what he was doing. > I was doing no such thing and I resent this accusation in the strongest terms. My meaning here was that he took the 'right' out or the sentence, or question, equating to taking out. Any distortion here was accidental and unfortunate and you need not add to the tension by accusing me of distortion. The user here is indeed the exception to the rule, or the norm. And as rich0 said, the 80% 20% rule may apply. The fact is however that the 20% were grossly unimpressed. Users are neither seasoned nor prepared for the type of review put upon them by him and mgorny. Even Amynka struggled with it. Read the rest of the emails dev to dev and it's a walk in the park. It all works. His efforts aimed at devs developing ebuilds are fine and happy with them. These users still needed support and a voice to help them speak up, and they did. Still, these members have fashioned themselves to teach and service users, They have alot of adapting to do before users will embrace their attempts to educate them. > In another subthread I really got the sense that he's simply > attempting to provoke a response. I suggest not giving him that. > I won't be giving any more to him I suspect. enough it's late -- kind regards Ian Delaney
