On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò <flamee...@flameeyes.eu> wrote: > On 19 October 2014 16:57, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> If maintainers want to NEEDINFO or WONTFIX a tinderbox bug, well, >>> they'll be the ones picking up the pieces when the gcc upgrade moves >>> ahead. >> >> We are all picking up the pieces. >> >>> I don't get why anybody wouldn't like seeing them. >>> >> >> I do, it's childish and uncollaborative behavior from that person >> closing the bugs (any1 still wondering who we are talking about?). And >> that behavior is tolerated. Are you saying you want to change something >> about it? > > So who wants to pick up the pieces now? Because I'm almost pissed off > enough to turn down the tinderbox and give a big FU to Gentoo already. > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527608
I'm not sure who "owns" policy around bugzilla. If nothing else I'm happy to put this on the next Council agenda. If QA or Comrel wants to step in sooner they're welcome to, but if they're looking for a policy to enforce the Council could probably provide one. Self-contained bugs in general make sense, and I'm all for finding a better solution than what the tinderbox currently supplies. However, until that solution comes along I think we're better off having tinderbox runs than not having them. If somebody took the time to systematically test my packages and the biggest issue was that I had to fetch a URL, then I'd do them the favor of fetching it and attaching the file myself, because I want to know when my stuff breaks. I can't always fix every bug as quickly as I'd like to, but I'm not going to just close them and stick my head in the sand. Why are we all here anyway? If we want to all play games I'm sure we can make life miserable for each other, but frankly I'd rather spend my time making my favorite distro better, and I can't imagine why else anybody would be wasting their time reading my emails... :) -- Rich