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On 25/07/14 01:15 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> 
>>> Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of revisions: -
>>> One would rebuild all as usually (for example, -r1...) - The
>>> other one would only regenerate VDB and wouldn't change the 
>>> installed files (for example, -r1.1)
>>> 
>>> But I am not sure if it could be viable from a "technical"
>>> point of view :(
>> 
>> I'm afraid it couldn't. The major problem is not knowing *when*
>> to migrate metadata, portage usually gets that right. The problem
>> is in getting the correct output which is often near to
>> impossible.
> 
> I think we'd appreciate some more information here:
> 
> * What exactly is the metadata that we're talking about? * How much
> of it can be generated by sourcing the ebuild, without running 
> phases? * When does that exactly break? Example?
> 

It may help this overall discussion to step back even further here:

* What do we want to accomplish, exactly?

 - allow portage to emerge updated packages without rebuilding them
(ie running src_* and pkg_*inst phases), when it can be determined
from metadata changes (or for -rX.Y method perhaps it is assumed
- -just- on filename changes) that this is not necessary.

* What are all of the cases that would validly trigger this
dont-bother-to-run-phases shortcut?

- - addition of missing dependency [1]
- - new useflag not enabled by default
- - removed useflag that was not previously enabled
- - changing of dependency atom(s) -- ie swapping a specific atom to
virtual one
- - EAPI bump (maybe??)
- - ....  <-- add more please!


* For each of the above, in what cases is a full rebuild probably
necessary anyhow??

- - dependency atom minimum version is increased, and the in-VDB version
of this dep is too old (??)
- - new dependency atom is missing from VDB (??)
- - EAPI bump adds new entries to VDB that need to be calculated from
say, merge phase
- - ....



..i think from there we can perhaps determine what metadata could be
updated and/or needs to be updated to maintain consistency in the
dont-rebuild cases we want.
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