On 25/02/14 14:18, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> On 02/25/2014 6:39 AM, Thomas D. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> line 16 ("renamed the file to
>> /lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules") and line 18 ("you can
>> override in /etc/systemd/network/") doesn't end with punctuation.
>>
>>
>> Did I get this right? I am using udev to give my interfaces custom names
>> and I am not a systemd user but to keep my setup working with udev-210 I
>> have to exclude
>>
>> /lib/systemd/network/
>> /etc/systemd/
>>
>> from my INSTALL_MASK *and* I have to configure things in
>> "/etc/systemd/"? Really?
> "Resistance is futile."
> "Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply."
> -- The Borg Collective
>
> "You will be upgraded."
> "You will become like us."
> -- Cybermen
>
>
>> Anyway:
>> Don't get me wrong. Yes, I don't use systemd and I am a happy OpenRC
>> user but I have no problems with systemd (as long as it doesn't affects
>> me). But this upgrade seems to affect non-systemd users.
>>
>> Wasn't Gentoo about choices?
>>
>> So when it is possible to provide a sys-fs/udev package like Lars
>> (Polynomial-C) has shown which won't require non-systemd user to use
>> files from systemd and to do configuration in "/etc/systemd/" why don't
>> we provide such a package to non-systemd users?
>> The package already has an "openrc" USE flag...
> There still is choice. It's just harder to find and/or use, unfortunately.
> We have the sys-fs/eudev package that forked udev and re-split it out of
> systemd. That might satisfy your need for a clean replacement of the
> standard udev w/o modifying any custom device rules and such that you might
> have.
>
> There's also the option of using busybox's mdev as well, although it's a lot
> more limited and no where near as configurable as udev/eudev is. But for
> some, it works perfectly (like me).
>
> Eudev:
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Eudev
>
> Mdev:
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev
>
If someone is willing to change his device manager because a file or
directory
name is 'systemd', then by all means, sounds very logical system maintaince,
not.
- Samuli
