-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 08/08/13 12:13 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 12:02 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: >> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Ian Stakenvicius >> <a...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> It may be pertinent for this reason (a "smoother" upgrade path) >>> and this reason alone, to stabilize gnome-3.6 first -- just to >>> get into gnome3 (and get gnome-2 removed) without having to >>> also deal with the systemd migration at the same time. >> >> I'd defer to Pacho who seems to be giving thought to planning for >> the upgrade path. >> >> My suggestion would be that it would make more sense to first >> switch to systemd running the current gnome. Switching to >> systemd is really the harder change here, and systemd works just >> fine with earlier versions of gnome AFAIK. There are already >> migration guides for systemd (though I haven't tried them >> recently - the last time I did I got burned by the fact that >> dhcpcd doesn't run by default as it does in openrc-oldnet (or >> whatever we're going to call it)). Migrating to systemd on a >> system that doesn't run many services isn't actually that hard. >> The biggest pain is hunting down unit files if you have a lot of >> things that don't provide them, and doing all the config >> (anything in /etc/conf.d basically needs a redo). >> >> Rich >> >> > > In my case, I updated from 2.32 to 3.7.9x and, some weeks ago, > moved from openrc to systemd. I don't know how is systemd working > with 2.32 then. > > My idea would be to suggest to do all at the same time -> once all > is ready and Gnome 3.8 is stabilized, people will see a news item > telling them that they need to update their systems (telling them > how to skip blockers and such things) and pointing them to migrate > to systemd after that (and finally reboot). > > Regarding the blockers, we are working about how to handle them in > a better way currently (or, at least, explain people how to skip > them). About migration to systemd, I have followed: > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd > > without any problems. Most of the problems comes from packages > still not providing unit files in their stable versions (that tries > to be covered in > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=unit-in-stable before > Gnome 3.8 hits stable, that way people will have a better working > systemd setup) > >
Somewhat related question -- a new(?) profile was mentioned as being required for gnome-3 ; if this is definitely happening, would it be a good idea to mask gnome in the other profiles? Would that help with the migration or just cause more issues? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlIDxTEACgkQ2ugaI38ACPABEAD+JgMjEw4WiGKDQyaJdrywG5xr Tlg2+rx1WB4L+11neHoBAKGp4UxYGUkOECigN9WB7JcbUfTpyJBCWtxjtH/oNNP2 =nUmi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
