On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:45:18PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote > No one is arguing against that. All this thread is about is making > systemd a first-class citizen, like OpenRC/Sysvinit, so it will be as > smooth as possible for someone who wants to switch between the two.
It seems that some of the proposals are crossing the line to make systemd first-class and openrc second-class. *THAT* is what's causing the complaints. The best analogy I can think of is the more extreme type of "affirmative action" that effectively amounts to racial discrimination against white people. The pro-systemd group here is advocating double-standards... 1) http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/272180?do=post_view_threaded > Having a package to install every systemd unit in existence just > clutters the end user's system and makes it harder to tell which > units are actually valid. Yet openrc users are supposed to accept having their systems cluttered with systemd units. 2) I suggested keying on a "systemd" USE flag, to inform portage whether or not to install systemd units. I was told that https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198901 forbade using it that way. And therefore systemd config files would be installed regardless of flags. Therefore udev/eudev don't have "systemd" flags. But both have "openrc" flags, and will not run OK on an openrc machine without the "openrc" flag. -- Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications