Mike Frysinger posted on Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:32:40 -0400 as excerpted:

> On Wednesday 10 April 2013 14:56:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@gentoo.org>
>> wrote:
>> > tl;dr: make sure your /dev/pts is mounted correctly w/gid=5 or bad
>> > things will happen and it's (probably) all your fault
>> 
>> So, who is this directed to?

>> If this is to anybody who uses Gentoo,
>> then at best this should be a place to hash out the contents of the
>> news item.  We don't expect Gentoo users to read -dev.
> 
> users will be informed of the problem when the ebuild fails and then can
> trivially resolve it at that point.  this should impact very few (if
> any) users, so i don't think a news item makes sense.

/This/ user would have been affected.  I guess the GID bit wasn't in the 
shipped fstab back in 2004 when I setup the system, or in any case, it 
wasn't there until I just added it last nite, based on this thread.

Of course, /this/ user reads dev, too, exactly because it does give me a 
heads-up on such things, as well as a bit of the reasoning (and often 
some discussion) behind it.

I'd argue that any gentooer that takes their gentooing sysadmin 
responsibilities seriously really should read -dev for exactly that 
reason, but I suppose in practice we're actually lucky that most don't, 
or the list would either be too busy to follow (and get anything else 
done) or would have to be read-only for ordinary users.

But you're right in that if I hadn't read it here, the die and I assume a 
reasonable die message would have informed me what action I needed to 
take to fix the problem.

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