Mike Frysinger posted on Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:32:40 -0400 as excerpted: > On Wednesday 10 April 2013 14:56:26 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@gentoo.org> >> wrote: >> > tl;dr: make sure your /dev/pts is mounted correctly w/gid=5 or bad >> > things will happen and it's (probably) all your fault >> >> So, who is this directed to?
>> If this is to anybody who uses Gentoo, >> then at best this should be a place to hash out the contents of the >> news item. We don't expect Gentoo users to read -dev. > > users will be informed of the problem when the ebuild fails and then can > trivially resolve it at that point. this should impact very few (if > any) users, so i don't think a news item makes sense. /This/ user would have been affected. I guess the GID bit wasn't in the shipped fstab back in 2004 when I setup the system, or in any case, it wasn't there until I just added it last nite, based on this thread. Of course, /this/ user reads dev, too, exactly because it does give me a heads-up on such things, as well as a bit of the reasoning (and often some discussion) behind it. I'd argue that any gentooer that takes their gentooing sysadmin responsibilities seriously really should read -dev for exactly that reason, but I suppose in practice we're actually lucky that most don't, or the list would either be too busy to follow (and get anything else done) or would have to be read-only for ordinary users. But you're right in that if I hadn't read it here, the die and I assume a reasonable die message would have informed me what action I needed to take to fix the problem. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman