* Olivier Crête schrieb am 04.01.12 um 19:53 Uhr: > On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 19:30 +0100, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > > * Olivier Crête schrieb am 04.01.12 um 18:40 Uhr: > > > On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 15:54 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:51:12 +0100 > > > > Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > /bin/systemctl > > > > > libdbus-1.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3 > > > > > > > > Here is a prime example of why "vertical integration" should really be > > > > called "a horrible mess of tight coupling"... > > > > > > You clearly have failed to realize that d-bus is a now the bus for > > > system messaging and is as much part of the system as syslog or bash. > > > Probably even more so, for example, in Fedora 17, you'll be able to boot > > > without syslog or bash, but you need d-bus. > > > > If this was true, we will soon have problems with linux systems that > > windows had in 1995. > > > > IMO a system should *always* be bootable without that "high level" > > stuff. And by bootable I mean that you can get a root prompt at > > least. > > d-bus is not high-level stuff... For example, you can't use bluetooth > without d-bus. Even Android has it..
And you need bluetooth to boot your stable datacenter server systems? > That said, in the new systemd world, bash is.. Since it's only a "UI" > tools (just like gnome-shell for example). Since you don't need it to > boot. Yeah right. Having dbus for bluetooth is much more important than having a shell. Please remember that there are *way* more server systems running linux without any graphical desktop at all than desktop systems. -Marc -- 8AAC 5F46 83B4 DB70 8317 3723 296C 6CCA 35A6 4134
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