On 11/13/2011 04:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> Zac Medico schrieb:
>> On 11/13/2011 04:36 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>>> Zac Medico schrieb:
>>>>> Per discussion on IRC, I propose to make -v turn off quiet-build by 
>>>>> default.
>>>>> It can remain enabled by default if -v is not passed to emerge.
>>>>
>>>> I think -v controls too many other things to make it override
>>>> --quiet-build, especially since I consider --quiet-build=n to be a mode
>>>> that most people would prefer to avoid.
>>>
>>> No, in my proposal --quiet-build would override -v, not the other way round.
>>
>> Your proposal was for -v to override the new default --quiet-build
>> setting, was it not?
> 
> To be more explicit:
> 1) "emerge foo": quiet build
> 2) "emerge foo --quiet-build=n": non-quiet build
> 3) "emerge foo -v": non-quiet build
> 4) "emerge foo -v --quiet-build=y": quiet-build
> 
> So -v sets the default for quiet build, but user can still override with
> explicit --quiet-build=...
> 
> I think the case 1) covers the arguments in favour of having quiet build
> by default.

I think that's too fragile because you could easily have people using -v
and getting the --quiet-build=n behavior even though they didn't want
it. I think most people would prefer to avoid the --quiet-build=n
behavior since, generally, people who want to analyze build output are
better served by PORT_LOGDIR.
-- 
Thanks,
Zac

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