Renat Lumpau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Yes. Here's a quote from Halcy0n (with his permission):
> 
>   Don't mistake me not getting involved for approval.  I am just not going to
>   get involved in every single dev->dev disagreement, and certainly not when I
>   do not have all of the facts.  I wasn't aware that every team leader was
>   accountable for how devs on their team behaved.
> 
> This is not meant as a comment on Halcy0n's abilities as a team leader, as I
> understand he has attempted to manage the issue but "reasonable effort" has
> failed.
> 
> So, my concern is: if the QA team can't manage its members effectively, should
> they be entrusted with tree-wide powers?

Since one dev so far has stepped "out of line", and this is by no means the
only time it has happened, I don't see how this argument has any
merit.  If it becomes a pattern where all members of the QA team are
causing problems, then I can see it as being valid.

I don't think you will find one person that is going to say they are
capable of changing how Ciaran interacts with people.  This is an
entirely different issue though, and I have talked to Ciaran about it.
What I was saying above is that I am not going to go and get involved
every single time someone has a disagreement.  This situation has
obviously grown to be ridiculous and I have had a talk with him about
it, so he knows my feelings on the situation, and what I expect.

-- 
Mark Loeser   -   Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86)
email         -   halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org
                  mark AT halcy0n DOT com
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