Hi Tison,

> On Mar 20, 2025, at 8:23 AM, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On Retirement, I have one question: does PonyMail have no more efforts
> needed, even regular maintenance?

The source for lists.apache.org belongs to the vendor and I believe that the 
PonyMail Podling’s source is a fork which   differs and lacks proprietary 
parts. Consider asking for more detail from Infra unless someone directly 
involved wants to make a statement.

A question could be for Sebb and if he finds the Pony Mail project helpful.

> BTW, we have some repo that are part of our infrastructure, they don't
> do ASF "release" IIUC but also not "retire" or archive.

Sure we have infrastructure and now tooling archives. These also get archived 
if they are no longer relevant.

Best,
Dave

> 
> Best,
> tison.
> 
> Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> 于2025年3月20日周四 23:20写道:
>> 
>> Let’s focus on the original question.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2025, at 12:35 AM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Pony Mail project has been incubating since 2016 and lately has failed 
>>> to submit its reports. The PPMC is struggling to attract people and only 
>>> has two or three active people on it. We have discussed this project before 
>>> but haven't concluded what to do with it. It is a mature project that not 
>>> many people are interested in, but we use a version of it at 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/ (although I believe it is not exactly the same).
>>> 
>>> Some options:
>>> - We vote to retire the project - note that, unlike TLPs, podlings do not 
>>> go to the attic, but it could continue to live on GitHub.
>>> - We vote to graduate the project and make it the board’s issue
>> 
>> If the project becomes a TLP, will it be one of those like Whimsical that 
>> never release software? Is it needed?
>> 
>> I lean towards Retirement, but if the several ASF Members involved want to 
>> continue then I would vote for graduation.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> But I’m open to any other suggestions.
>>> 
>>> The project has asked for other PPMC members, but even if it got them, it’s 
>>> unclear how teh project would graduate.
>>> 
>>> We would, of course, bring this up with the project’s PMC before taking any 
>>> action.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Justin
>> 
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