> On 30. Jan 2025, at 09:43, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Jan
>
> It sounds great !
> I just have a very stupid question: there's no chance to gather
> CouchDB/PouchDB in the same project ? It's not clear to me if CouchDB
> and PouchDB have their own communities or it's a more "technical"
> split.
They have their own communities with some overlap. Most PouchDB users
are also CouchDB users, and some CouchDB users are also PouchDB users.
But most PouchDB maintainers are not CouchDB maintainers or vice versa.
CouchDB is written in Erlang and PouchDB in JavaScript. These are
sufficiently separate worlds that maintainers on either side would
not be in a good position to make judgements about the other world,
either in day-to-day operations or in ASF relevant things like
voting on releases or technical decisions.
Imagine a pure Java or C++ developer having to vote on a motion to,
say, deprecate a particular Ruby or Python runtime version.
> If you need a mentor/champion, please let me know if I can help.
Yes please, we do need all of these :)
Best
Jan
—
>
> Thanks !
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 6:25 PM Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Incubator,
>>
>> I’m writing on behalf of the PouchDB[1] project. PouchDB is a
>> sister-project to Apache CouchDB that has existed since 2010,
>> albeit outside of the ASF. I’ve included more details below.
>>
>> PouchDB is looking to join the ASF as per a recent discussion[2]
>> on the current project issue tracker.
>>
>> And as per The Apache Incubator Cookbook[3]: our next task is:
>>
>>> Finding a champion and mentors
>>
>> On behalf of the current PouchDB maintainers I am hereby soliciting
>> volunteers to champion and mentor the PouchDB project at the ASF
>> incubator.
>>
>> —
>>
>> PouchDB is a JavaScript reimplementation of Apache CouchDB’s APIs,
>> data model and replication mechanism for running in a web browser.
>>
>> It is a popular deployment companion to Apache CouchDB and is used
>> in many commercial, open-source and humanitarian projects around
>> the world that require full offline-capable database access in web-
>> based applications.
>>
>> The current maintainers would like to reflect the relative im-
>> portance of PouchDB by joining the ASF to ensure, among other
>> things, its longevity and transparency of development.
>>
>> Apache CouchDB as been a top-level project at the ASF since 2009
>> and it only makes sense to the maintainers PouchDB to follow along
>> rather than, say, join a JavaScript specific foundation like the
>> OpenJS Foundation.
>>
>> The PouchDB maintainers further prefer to be an independent project
>> within the ASF rather than a sub-project to Apache CouchDB as the
>> technologies and day-to-day operations as well as releases vary
>> widely enough as to not burden the Apache CouchDB developers with
>> the additional overhead. In previous private talks, various CouchDB
>> members largely agree with this assessment. Where needed, the CouchDB
>> and PouchDB maintainers have a proven track record of collaborating
>> productively across organisational boundaries so that both sides
>> feel a sub-project relationship not to be beneficial let alone
>> required.
>>
>> —
>>
>> I am personally the PMC Chair for Apache CouchDB and while I am
>> technically eligible for the champion position, I’d rather the
>> rest of the PouchDB maintainers meet more ASF folks rather sooner
>> than later.
>>
>> —
>>
>> Do let us know if you have any further questions, advice or other
>> points of discussion.
>>
>> Best
>> Jan
>> —
>> [1]: https://pouchdb.com <https://pouchdb.com/>
>> [2]: https://github.com/pouchdb/pouchdb/issues/8999
>> [3]: https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook
>>
>>
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