+1 (non-binding) Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> 于2024年5月9日周四 21:36写道： > > On 5/9/24 03:15, Imba Jin wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > > > For example, after the project is donated(in incubation), when users visit > > "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" or "github.com/apache/hugegraph", > > it could automatically jump to "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" (As > > expected) > > > > However, if we create a new repo from "selfserve.apache.org" (like > > "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-ai"), when the users visit > > non-prefix url "github.com/apache/hugegraph-ai", it will return 404 instead > > of automatically redirecting to "incubator-hugegraph-ai" (Unexpected, maybe > > we need submit a JIRA ticket to enable it) > > This is expected behavior, as there is no hugegraph-ai repository in > this case. Redirects only work if there is an existing symlink from an > older repository with that name. > > I guess I'm confused as to why one would try visiting a URL that never > existed in the first place. > > In any case, this would be moot if the incubator prefix was dropped > going forward. > > > > > Hope my explanation is clear~ > > > > Imba Jin > > > > On 2024/05/08 14:53:13 Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > >>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > >>>>> sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >>>>>> that the code is under Incubation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > >>>>>> indication. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >>>>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >>>>>> users, > >>>>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >>>>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > >>>>> > >>>>> Can't agree more on this. > >>>>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > >>>>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > >>>>> indicator is clear enough. > >>>>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > >>>>> GitHub supported operation. > >>>>> > >>>>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > >>>> > >>>> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > >>>> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > >>>> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > >>>> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > >>>> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > >>>> branding of podlings. > >>> > >>> It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > >>> it's just another way of doing it. > >>> > >>>> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > >>>> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > >>> > >>> IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > >>> It is not something that can be left until later. > >> > >> *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > >> prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > >> matter to the end user? > >> > >> I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > >> upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > >> upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > >> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >>>>>> <alin.jerpe...@sony.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> +1 (non binding) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > >>>>>>> migrate after graduation > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best regards > >>>>>>> Alin > >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>> Från: hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > >>>>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org> > >>>>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo > >>>>>>> name > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla <richard@ > >>>>>>> zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. > >>>>>>> Mai 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu <wu. sheng. 841108@ gmail. > >>>>>>> com>: > >-0 > >>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > >>>>>>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > >>>>>>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > >>>>>>> sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla <rich...@zowalla.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (I like the prefix) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu > >>>>>>>> <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>: > >>>>>>>>> -0 binding > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> +0 (binding) wave > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang > >>>>>>>>>>> <francischu...@apache.org> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> +1 (binding) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Francis > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > >>>>>>>> following > >>>>>>>>>>>> proposals: > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > >>>>>>>> GitHub repo to > >>>>>>>>>>>> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > >>>>>>>> description > >>>>>>>>>>>> can conflict with this consensus. > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to > >>>>>>>>>>>> describe > >>>>>>>>>>>> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > >>>>>>>>>>>> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > >>>>>>>> DISCLAIMER > >>>>>>>>>>>> content). > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubator- > >>>>>>>>>>>> prefix, and other items above > >>>>>>>>>>>> +0 do not care strongly > >>>>>>>>>>>> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a > >>>>>>>> member of > >>>>>>>>>>>> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>>>> tison. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Best Regards, > >>>>>>> - *Hulk Lin* > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >
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