Hi Justin, I am a student from Zhejiang University, one of the initial committers of HoraeDB. I just want to talk about my feelings. I've been involved in the HoraeDB community for more than half a year now. In the process of participating in HoraeDB community, I have been respected and helped by the community. In the process of participation, I can easily get the contextual information of Issue or pr, and I didn't encounter the so-called private pr only within the company. I think the maintainers of HoraeDB community are working very hard to make the community more diversified, and my being nominated as the initial committer as a student is an example of that. I believe that the maintainers of HoraeDB are passionate about open source and I don't see them doing anything that would be harmful to the community. This is how I feel about my involvement in HoraeDB.
Best Regards, Ruixiang Tan. tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2023年11月28日周二 19:30写道： > To be clear, when I wrote "I worked with", it doesn't mean we're > colleagues. But I work with other initial committers in the community. > > tison <wander4...@gmail.com>于2023年11月28日 周二19:15写道： > > > Thanks for your reply, Justin. Now I understand your concern more > > concretely. > > > > I'll share three points here: > > > > 1. First of all, the trademark policy must be followed for the new > > PPMC. The PPMC will protect the trademark with the guide of trademark > > policy[1][2]. It's part of the road during the incubation. > > > > 2. I worked with the people for a while, and I trust their motivation > > for running a diverse community. It's impossible to prove, but we can > > do a few exercises as your new reply. > > > > > whereas “CeresDB” should be used in several cases > > > > **This is a concern. I'll check it with the initial group, resolve it, > > and then go back to the list. I hope this is a signal that the project > > is actively reacting to this concern,**[3] > > > > ... although I may regard it as a post-donate action (Answer Cloud is > > removed after entering the incubator[4]. I did it, followed by some > > others from Answer's committers). > > > > > some entities have taken unfair advantage of this > > > > It's also unfair to judge a new incubator proposal to assume, in > > advance, that they will do something evil. > > > > Best, > > tison. > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ > > [2] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/policies > > [3] https://github.com/CeresDB/horaedb/issues/1319 > > [4] > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-answer-website/commit/e807a7af5e48b3dfb505854f029753daf480362f > > > > Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> 于2023年11月28日周二 18:27写道： > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:12 PM Justin Mclean < > jus...@classsoftware.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > We need to know the reasons for the name change and why the company > is > > willing to donate the code but not the name. The possibility of having > them > > forking the community later is a risk the Incubator needs to know about > and > > should be mentioned in the proposal. Having a brand closely associated > with > > a project and owned by a single corporate entity is a risk to the > project. > > Why a company would be unwilling to give up that brand or trademark just > > because it may be convenient in the future is a concern. > > > > > > While I agree that having a clear reason stated would be helpful, I > > > think I have a different take on the risks you are outlining here. > > > > > > We have tons of examples here in the ASF of project Foo being used to > > > power commercial product Bar (Geode/Gemfire, Ignite/GridGain, > > > Kafka/Confluent, and many, many more). So this kind of dual branding > > > is nothing new -- there's no community fork involved per se. > > > > > > It would be nice if the original name of the open source project (as > > > it existed on Github) was donated to ASF and the new name for a > > > commercially developed product was picked. But even if it is the other > > > way around -- I actually don't see any risks for the foundation in > > > this approach (as long as it is clearly understood that the branding > > > guidelines on both sides need to be honored). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Roman. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > >
