Hi Mirko,

I'm afraid I can't remember the procedure to get access to that Wiki
but I will read it now and move it there!

Thank you very much.

Cheers,
Lars

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 2:25 PM Mirko Kämpf <mirko.kae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I intend to submit the draft of the podling report to this page:
> *https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/July2023#training
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/July2023#training>*
>
> But unfortunately, I still have no write permission to this wiki.
> My username is: mirko.kae...@gmail.com
>
>
> Here is the draft in the *Apache Training Wiki:*
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-July2023
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-June2023>
>
> And at the end of this mail is the full text of the draft.
>
> It has been shared on the project's developer list.
> No comments so far.
>
> Cheers,
> Mirko
>
>
>
>
>
> July 2023
>
> *Training
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#training>*
>
> The Training project aims to develop resources which can be used for
> training purposes in various media formats, languages and for various
> Apache and non-Apache target projects.
>
> Training has been incubating since 2019-02-21.
>
> In June, we started adjusting the project goals. Besides a pure focus on
> content creation tools we have identified the need for two additional
> aspects:
> (1) For ASF processes some documentation exists, e.g.
> https://community.apache.org/contributor-ladder, but the ASF member journey
> is still a challenge for many new members, especially those with less
> coding experience.
> As a solution it has been suggested to provide training material for the
> following problems:
> * You've just graduated to a TLP. What are the challenges you will now face?
> * New committer onboarding
> * New PMC member onboarding
> * New PMC Chair onboarding
> * New board member onboarding
>
> (2) Creation of some general recommendations/guidelines for:
>  * managing/validation of training material contributions of arbitrary ASF
> projects
> has been propsed.
>
> Initial discussion of the topics have been started.
>
> *We expand our focus now on the following aspects:*
>
> *We have to work on strategies to increase the** participation and the
> visibility of the project and its goals.*
>
> *Besides requests** for contributions from individual contributors** from
> other Apache projects we want to show what the Apache Training project can
> offer to those projects**.*
>
> *We should build on the assumption that synergy and network effects can
> help us to increase the community around training and skill management
> topics.*
>
>
> *Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating>
>
>    1. Improve the community participation (other Apache projects should
>    actively be linked to this project, since they "have the content")
>    2. *(Re)define the short-, mid-, and long-term goals of the project.*
>    3. *Select an approach to handle non coding / non document related tasks
>    (e.g., community related activities on events)*
>    4. *Create a strategy how this projects contributes to or is supported
>    by other Apache projects*
>    5. Create a tutorial on how the tools provided by this project can be
>    used to create own content
>    6. Review current policies around contribution review and releases to
>    find a pragmatic compromise
>
> *Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of>
>
> The Training Project needs more contribution from other Apache projects,
> hence a clear communication strategy for interlinking existing projects
> with the Apache Training project is needed.
>
> We need feedback from other Apache projects on the presentations and
> trainings developed till now.
>
>
>
> *In order to improve this collaboration we suggest to investigate the
> status of other project’s documentation in a systematic approach,
> especially with an eye on available training related material.*
>
> *How has the community developed since the last report?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report>
>
>
>
> *Activity has started to grow since the last report. We again failed to
> provide the report on time, but this will change soon.Two persons joined
> our conversation on the dev-list (Eric and Rich).*
>
>
> *How has the project developed since the last report?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report>
>
> An pro-active request for a content / tool donation has been placed - but
> it was rejected. The person I asked has no longer access to the tool I had
> in mind.
>
> Creation of a ASF onboarding training module has been announced.
>
> A tool for inspecting documentation in Github repositories (ASF projects)
> which will lead towards automatic training related content extraction has
> been started.
>
> PR activity continuous on a low level since the last report.
>
>
> *How would you assess the podling's maturity?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity>
>
> There are currently some issues with this podling that we are working to
> address, we believe that the issues are not yet critical and can be turned
> around from within the community but want to make the board aware of this
> early on.
>
>    -  Initial setup oft he project’s structure: *Goals and strategy needs
>    refinement.*
>    -  Working towards first release: *What type of artefacts to release is
>    not clear, due to unclear goals and strategy.*
>    -  Community building: *The community exists of a very small number of
>    people but is more or less invisible, as of today (April 2023).*
>    -  Nearing graduation: *Currently, we are far away from graduation.*
>
>
> *When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected>
>
> November 2020
>
>
> *Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive>
>
> Mentors have been responsive and helpful when reached out to.
>
>
> *Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks>
>
> The name search process has not yet been started, as there is still time to
> do that if and when graduation draws nearer.
>
> The PPMC is actively monitoring usage of the Podlings current name on other
> sites.
>
> The Podling is not directly affiliating with any sponsors donating content
> and presenting an independent image on the webpage.
>
>
> *Signed-off-by:*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#signed-off-by>
>
>    -  (training) Craig Russell
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Christofer Dutz
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Justin Mclean
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Lars Francke
>    Comments:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. rer. nat. Mirko Kämpf
> Müchelner Str. 23
> 06259 Frankleben

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