Thanks for your inputs. Try to summarize the discussion:
* Apache requires a SGA from the *current* copyright holder of the software to grant permission for ASF. * If the current copyright holder is Meitu, then they should sign a grant with Exhibit A barely "Kvrocks". However, if the current copyright holder is "Kvrocks contributors", since it's a virtual entity, a certain contributor on behalf of the community should sign the SGA. Did I get it right? Is there some other proposal that got into the incubator without a SGA from a certain "company". Best, tison. Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 15:42写道： > > but I think it's right that meitu should claim clearly about the > copyright > date since the > > Do you mean there is no single Meitu employee(s) was > working/contributed to that project ever since? > Because the org is virtual on GitHub, and meitu can't sign CCLA or SGA > to that virtual group back then, I think one way or another, Meitu > still need to prove the SGA from the transfer date to now. > It is better for meitu to sign the SGA to declare all > contributions(from beginning to now), others(individuals) would submit > their ICLA(or other companies' SGA) for some codes after the transfer. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 15:06写道： > > > > Thanks for junping reply. > > > > Yes, we also agree that should grant the whole source code repository > for > > ASF, > > but I think it's right that meitu should claim clearly about the > copyright > > date since the > > the repository was moved to another organization after then. > > > > So our question is should we need to sign extra other agreements for > > podling IP Clearance? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:57 PM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > I think SGA here should be the same as other project. > > > As Craig mentioned above, it is code’s copyright owner ( a legal > entity or > > > natural human) to grant permission for ASF. If only for code during > certain > > > period, that means some code is not get permitted for Apache which is > very > > > weird. :( > > > > > > hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com>于2022年4月25日 周一上午11:52写道： > > > > > > > Thanks all, > > > > > > > > From the meitu side, they think should claim the date clearly > instead of > > > > implicitly, > > > > so I'm not sure whether is ok to add this clarification on SGA or > not? > > > > If not, are there other agreements that should be signed for podling > IP > > > > Clearance? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:13 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please check the SGA template of ASF, like Craig mentioned, > usually, > > > > > there is no date/timestamp included. > > > > > The foundation just needs legal approval that the company granted > to > > > > > move codes to the foundation, others(like individuals) should > submit > > > > > ICLA(s) > > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > > hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 10:19写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the > project > > > > > > > moving to a 3rd party repository, and changing the owner from a > > > > > > > license perspective? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kvrocks has transferred from the meitu to the KvrocksLabs > > > organization > > > > > and claimed the copyright belongs to the Kvrocks community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a place/way to track this event? > > > > > > > > > > > > We didn't track this event in a public place. The lawyer thinks > they > > > > can > > > > > only grant the copyright when all of the contributors are their > > > employees > > > > > (before 2020.3.23). After that, the copyright should belong to the > > > > Kvrocks > > > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 8:29 AM Sheng Wu < > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > While the IPMCs and PPMCs preparing the SGA > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I think IPMC don't prepare SGA, SGA(s) are from original owners. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Its lawyer said that code contributions from then on belong > to the > > > > > Kvrocks > > > > > >> community. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the > project > > > > > >> moving to a 3rd party repository, and changing the owner from a > > > > > >> license perspective? Is there a place/way to track this event? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > >> Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 06:46写道： > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Hi IPMCs, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Recently we voted and accepted Kvrocks to the Incubator[1]. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > While the IPMCs and PPMCs preparing the SGA, we meet an issue > that > > > > the > > > > > >> > original entity sign a SGA but explicit limit the agreement on > > > code > > > > > from > > > > > >> > 2018 to 2020. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Its lawyer said that code contributions from then on belong > to the > > > > > Kvrocks > > > > > >> > community. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > The issue is that since the original entity sign such a SGA > and > > > all > > > > > core > > > > > >> > contributors sign ICLAs, is there other agreements should be > > > signed > > > > > for > > > > > >> > podling IP Clearance? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Best, > > > > > >> > tison. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > [1] > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/shxcg56j3x36t75x63voj82s6hhdtrcv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
