Thanks for junping reply.

Yes, we also agree that should grant the whole  source code repository for
ASF,
but I think it's right that meitu should claim clearly about the copyright
date since the
the repository was moved to another organization after then.

So our question is should we need to sign extra other agreements for
podling IP Clearance?



On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:57 PM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote:

> I think SGA here should be the same as other project.
> As Craig mentioned above, it is code’s copyright owner ( a legal entity or
> natural human) to grant permission for ASF. If only for code during certain
> period, that means some code is not get permitted for Apache which is very
> weird. :(
>
> hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com>于2022年4月25日 周一上午11:52写道:
>
> > Thanks all,
> >
> > From the meitu side,  they think should claim the date clearly instead of
> > implicitly,
> > so I'm not sure whether is ok to add this clarification on SGA or not?
> > If not, are there other agreements that should be signed for podling IP
> > Clearance?
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:13 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Please check the SGA template of ASF, like Craig mentioned, usually,
> > > there is no date/timestamp included.
> > > The foundation just needs legal approval that the company granted to
> > > move codes to the foundation, others(like individuals) should submit
> > > ICLA(s)
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > > hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 10:19写道:
> > > >
> > > > > I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the project
> > > > > moving to a 3rd party repository, and changing the owner from a
> > > > > license perspective?
> > > >
> > > > Kvrocks has transferred from the meitu to the KvrocksLabs
> organization
> > > and claimed the copyright belongs to the Kvrocks community.
> > > >
> > > > > Is there a place/way to track this event?
> > > >
> > > > We didn't track this event in a public place. The lawyer thinks they
> > can
> > > only grant the copyright when all of the contributors are their
> employees
> > > (before 2020.3.23). After that, the copyright should belong to the
> > Kvrocks
> > > community.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 8:29 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > While the IPMCs and PPMCs preparing the SGA
> > > >>
> > > >> I think IPMC don't prepare SGA, SGA(s) are from original owners.
> > > >>
> > > >> > Its lawyer said that code contributions from then on belong to the
> > > Kvrocks
> > > >> community.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the project
> > > >> moving to a 3rd party repository, and changing the owner from a
> > > >> license perspective? Is there a place/way to track this event?
> > > >>
> > > >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >>
> > > >> tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 06:46写道:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi IPMCs,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Recently we voted and accepted Kvrocks to the Incubator[1].
> > > >> >
> > > >> > While the IPMCs and PPMCs preparing the SGA, we meet an issue that
> > the
> > > >> > original entity sign a SGA but explicit limit the agreement on
> code
> > > from
> > > >> > 2018 to 2020.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Its lawyer said that code contributions from then on belong to the
> > > Kvrocks
> > > >> > community.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The issue is that since the original entity sign such a SGA and
> all
> > > core
> > > >> > contributors sign ICLAs, is there other agreements should be
> signed
> > > for
> > > >> > podling IP Clearance?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best,
> > > >> > tison.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [1]
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/shxcg56j3x36t75x63voj82s6hhdtrcv
> > >
> >
>

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