> But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
> source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,Indeed 
> we miss that part, I will add them.



--

此致!Best Regards
陈明雨 Mingyu Chen

Email:
chenmin...@apache.org





At 2022-04-18 23:23:09, "Sheng Wu" <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi Willem and Mingyu
>
>Thanks for updating the status.
>I read README, License and Notice, yes, they mentioned about source
>codes are from Impala,
>and it is fine that two projects can't be merged, this is a pure tech
>decision, and I don't have an issue about that.
>But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
>source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,
>which I can't find.
>
>Is there something I am missing?
>
>Hi JB
>
>Sorry I missed your support in the Doris discussion. And good to see
>your support.
>
>Sheng Wu 吴晟
>Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年4月18日周一 22:13写道:
>>
>> Hi Sheng Wu,
>> Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions, 
>> here I also answer from my perspective:
>>
>>
>> > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>>
>> > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>>
>> > And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>>
>> > Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry I didn't realize that the graduation vote in the dev mailing group 
>> requires the support of a mentor,
>>
>> I will individually ping other mentors and invite them to assist with 
>> reviewing and suggestions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>>
>> > committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
>>
>> > please do a discussion about this too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, we have had a discussion about commiter promotion mechanism[1] in 
>> private@doris,
>>
>> and also make it public here:[2]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
>>
>> > from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
>>
>> > status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We explained this in our discussion[3] on the dev@doris, and I'll re-explain 
>> it here:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * Relationship with Apache Impala *
>>
>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and has been 
>> updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on code merge).
>>
>> In the Doris Proposal[4], we expressed our desire to decouple the Doris 
>> storage engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. So 
>> that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>>
>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to achieve this 
>> goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>>
>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop ecosystem, 
>> while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. The 
>> difference of targets means that many features do not meet the needs of both 
>> projects.
>>
>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own storage 
>> engine. This required a deep integration of the query layer with the 
>> metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural changes 
>> for this.
>>
>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that rewrites 
>> most of the execution node in query layer, which is different from Impala.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow the Impala 
>> community with code level iterations and integrations.
>>
>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with the Apache 
>> License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between Doris and Impala 
>> in the NOTICE file[5] and the README file[6] and thank the Impala community 
>> for their help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/l0w4xnzwsqvlphf57ksc4yq3o998s0cx
>>
>> [2] 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078398
>>
>> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/d5qxncy2tog63nq3n6y53f7sym3yl6k4
>>
>> [4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>>
>> [5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>>
>> [6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> 此致!Best Regards
>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>
>> Email:
>> chenmin...@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2022-04-18 20:43:44, "Sheng Wu" <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Hi Mingyu and Doris team
>> >
>> >Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.
>> >
>> >I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>> >there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>> >And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>> >Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>> >
>> >Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>> >committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
>> >please do a discussion about this too.
>> >
>> >From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
>> >from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
>> >status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>> >
>> >Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> >Twitter, wusheng1108
>> >
>> >li gang <lgcar...@apache.org> 于2022年4月18日周一 20:18写道:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Glad to see Doris is ready to graduate.
>> >> Good luck.
>> >>
>> >> 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年4月10日周日 23:51写道:
>> >>
>> >> > Dear Incubator Community,
>> >> >
>> >> > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe 
>> >> > Apache
>> >> > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to 
>> >> > make
>> >> > a discussion with the IPMC.
>> >> >
>> >> > Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
>> >> > analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
>> >> >
>> >> > The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project 
>> >> > and
>> >> > community since entering the incubator:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Community
>> >> >
>> >> >     - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
>> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
>> >> >
>> >> >     - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
>> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
>> >> >
>> >> >     - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
>> >> >
>> >> >     - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all
>> >> > major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. Project
>> >> >
>> >> >     - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
>> >> > resolved.
>> >> >
>> >> >     - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
>> >> > requirements[6].
>> >> >
>> >> >     - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
>> >> >
>> >> >     - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the
>> >> > Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
>> >> >
>> >> >     - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
>> >> >
>> >> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
>> >> >
>> >> > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
>> >> >
>> >> > [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
>> >> >
>> >> > [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
>> >> >
>> >> > [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
>> >> >
>> >> > [7]
>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
>> >> >
>> >> > [8]
>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
>> >> >
>> >> > [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
>> >> > think.
>> >> >
>> >> > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> > Establish the Apache Doris Project
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> >> >
>> >> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>> >> >
>> >> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>> >> >
>> >> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>> >> >
>> >> > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
>> >> >
>> >> > and analysis.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> >> >
>> >> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
>> >> >
>> >> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
>> >> >
>> >> > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
>> >> >
>> >> > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
>> >> >
>> >> > further
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
>> >> >
>> >> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> >> >
>> >> > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
>> >> >
>> >> > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>> >> >
>> >> > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
>> >> >
>> >> > and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> >> >
>> >> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Bin Ling          <ling...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Bo Wang           <wan...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Chaoyong Li       <lichaoy...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Chun Zhao         <zh...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Conghui Cai       <caicong...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Dayue Gao         <gaoda...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * De Li             <l...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Hangyuan Liu      <liuhangy...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Hao Chen          <chen...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * HaoPeng Li        <lihaop...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Jiafeng Zhang     <jiafengzh...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Kaisen Kang       <kangkai...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Ling Miao         <lingm...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Ming Wen          <wenm...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Mingyu Chen       <morning...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Ruyue Ma          <maru...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Shao Feng Shi     <shaofeng...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Sijie Guo         <si...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Willem Ning Jiang <ningji...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Zheng Shao        <zs...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Zhengguo Yang     <yang...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >  * Zuo Wei           <wei...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
>> >> >
>> >> > the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
>> >> >
>> >> > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>> >> >
>> >> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> >> >
>> >> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>> >> >
>> >> > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
>> >> >
>> >> > be it further
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> >> >
>> >> > Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>> >> >
>> >> > discharged.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > 此致!Best Regards
>> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >> >
>> >> > Email:
>> >> > chenmin...@apache.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> Best Regards
>> >>
>> >> DolphinScheduler PMC
>> >> Gang Li 李岗
>> >>
>> >> lgcar...@apache.org
>> >
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