Hi Willem and Mingyu

Thanks for updating the status.
I read README, License and Notice, yes, they mentioned about source
codes are from Impala,
and it is fine that two projects can't be merged, this is a pure tech
decision, and I don't have an issue about that.
But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,
which I can't find.

Is there something I am missing?

Hi JB

Sorry I missed your support in the Doris discussion. And good to see
your support.

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年4月18日周一 22:13写道:
>
> Hi Sheng Wu,
> Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions, 
> here I also answer from my perspective:
>
>
> > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>
> > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>
> > And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>
> > Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>
>
>
>
> Sorry I didn't realize that the graduation vote in the dev mailing group 
> requires the support of a mentor,
>
> I will individually ping other mentors and invite them to assist with 
> reviewing and suggestions.
>
>
>
>
> > Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>
> > committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
>
> > please do a discussion about this too.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, we have had a discussion about commiter promotion mechanism[1] in 
> private@doris,
>
> and also make it public here:[2]
>
>
>
>
> > From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
>
> > from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
>
> > status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>
>
>
>
> We explained this in our discussion[3] on the dev@doris, and I'll re-explain 
> it here:
>
>
>
>
> * Relationship with Apache Impala *
>
> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and has been 
> updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on code merge).
>
> In the Doris Proposal[4], we expressed our desire to decouple the Doris 
> storage engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. So that 
> the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>
> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to achieve this 
> goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>
> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop ecosystem, 
> while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. The 
> difference of targets means that many features do not meet the needs of both 
> projects.
>
> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own storage 
> engine. This required a deep integration of the query layer with the metadata 
> and the storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural changes for this.
>
> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that rewrites 
> most of the execution node in query layer, which is different from Impala.
>
>
>
>
> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow the Impala 
> community with code level iterations and integrations.
>
> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with the Apache 
> License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between Doris and Impala 
> in the NOTICE file[5] and the README file[6] and thank the Impala community 
> for their help.
>
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/l0w4xnzwsqvlphf57ksc4yq3o998s0cx
>
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078398
>
> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/d5qxncy2tog63nq3n6y53f7sym3yl6k4
>
> [4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>
> [5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>
> [6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> 此致!Best Regards
> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>
> Email:
> chenmin...@apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
> At 2022-04-18 20:43:44, "Sheng Wu" <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Hi Mingyu and Doris team
> >
> >Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.
> >
> >I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
> >there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
> >And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
> >Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
> >
> >Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
> >committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
> >please do a discussion about this too.
> >
> >From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
> >from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
> >status now? Have the license been handled properly?
> >
> >Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >li gang <lgcar...@apache.org> 于2022年4月18日周一 20:18写道:
> >
> >>
> >> Glad to see Doris is ready to graduate.
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >> 陈明雨 <morning...@163.com> 于2022年4月10日周日 23:51写道:
> >>
> >> > Dear Incubator Community,
> >> >
> >> > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe 
> >> > Apache
> >> > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to 
> >> > make
> >> > a discussion with the IPMC.
> >> >
> >> > Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
> >> > analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
> >> >
> >> > The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project 
> >> > and
> >> > community since entering the incubator:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Community
> >> >
> >> >     - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
> >> >
> >> >     - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
> >> >
> >> >     - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
> >> >
> >> >     - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all
> >> > major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
> >> >
> >> > 2. Project
> >> >
> >> >     - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
> >> > resolved.
> >> >
> >> >     - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
> >> > requirements[6].
> >> >
> >> >     - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
> >> >
> >> >     - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the
> >> > Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
> >> >
> >> >     - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
> >> >
> >> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
> >> >
> >> > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
> >> >
> >> > [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
> >> >
> >> > [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> >> >
> >> > [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> >> >
> >> > [7]
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> >> >
> >> > [8]
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> >> >
> >> > [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> >> > think.
> >> >
> >> > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >> >
> >> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> >> >
> >> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> >> >
> >> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >> >
> >> > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> >> >
> >> > and analysis.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >> >
> >> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> >> >
> >> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >> >
> >> > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> >> >
> >> > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> >> >
> >> > further
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> >> >
> >> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> >> >
> >> > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> >> >
> >> > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> >> >
> >> > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
> >> >
> >> > and be it further
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >> >
> >> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  * Bin Ling          <ling...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Bo Wang           <wan...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Chaoyong Li       <lichaoy...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Chun Zhao         <zh...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Conghui Cai       <caicong...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Dayue Gao         <gaoda...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * De Li             <l...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Hangyuan Liu      <liuhangy...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Hao Chen          <chen...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * HaoPeng Li        <lihaop...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Jiafeng Zhang     <jiafengzh...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Kaisen Kang       <kangkai...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Ling Miao         <lingm...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Ming Wen          <wenm...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Mingyu Chen       <morning...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Ruyue Ma          <maru...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Shao Feng Shi     <shaofeng...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Sijie Guo         <si...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Willem Ning Jiang <ningji...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Zheng Shao        <zs...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Zhengguo Yang     <yang...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >  * Zuo Wei           <wei...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
> >> >
> >> > the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
> >> >
> >> > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> >> >
> >> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >> >
> >> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >> >
> >> > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
> >> >
> >> > be it further
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >> >
> >> > Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >> >
> >> > discharged.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > 此致!Best Regards
> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >> >
> >> > Email:
> >> > chenmin...@apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >> DolphinScheduler PMC
> >> Gang Li 李岗
> >>
> >> lgcar...@apache.org
> >
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