I agree with Craig; the description of the project in the resolution definitely 
needs some work.

I noticed that the project has not held formal vote for graduation on dev@hop. 
I’ll remind the project that they need to have that vote before proceeding to a 
vote on general@incubator.

Julian


> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd strongly suggest that you improve the wording of the resolution "related 
> to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform". It's barely parseable. 
> 
> Perhaps make it simpler by removing the entire text after "related to short 
> for the Hop Orchestration Platform...easily used by other software" and 
> replacing it with "related to Java-based data orchestration tools". 
> 
> Warm regards,
> Craig
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:02 AM, Bart Maertens <bartm...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All, 
>> 
>> After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop (Incubating) 
>> is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion 
>> with the IPMC.
>> 
>> The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in September 
>> 2020: 
>> 
>> - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors
>> - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0)
>> - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers (mentors and 
>> PPMC members excluded)
>> - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least 4 
>> different companies/institutes
>> - Apache Hop website[2]
>> - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org 
>> - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and 
>> didn't find any issues.   
>> 
>> [1] 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E
>> [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/
>> [3] 
>> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
>> 
>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you 
>> think.
>> 
>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>> 
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Establish the Apache Hop Project
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>> related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written completely
>> in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools,
>> including a visual development environment, servers, metadata analysis,
>> auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a
>> reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software.
>> 
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop
>> Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide a
>> wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development
>> environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. As
>> a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be
>> easily reused by other software; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby
>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to
>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>> scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project:
>> 
>> * Bart Maertens      <bartm...@apache.org>
>> * Brandon Jackson    <usbran...@apache.org>
>> * Francois Papon     <fpa...@apache.org>
>> * Hans Van Akelyen   <han...@apache.org>
>> * Hiromu Hota        <hir...@apache.org>
>> * Julian Hyde        <jh...@apache.org>
>> * Kevin Ratnasekera  <djkevi...@apache.org>
>> * Matt Casters       <mcast...@apache.org>
>> * Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org>
>> * Nicolas Adment     <nadm...@apache.org>
>> * Tom Barber         <magicaltr...@apache.org>
>> 
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hans Van Akelyen be
>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Hop, to serve in
>> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
>> and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
>> removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
>> it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Hop podling; and
>> be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Hop podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>> discharged.
>> 
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> Craig L Russell
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