Jumping, It would be great to help more with nuttx, but my board membership and a new day job would make me much less than a good mentor.
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 1:56 AM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote: > Sounds like most of concerns are addressed through the discussion. > Just like Justin said, we will call the vote once one or two mentor get > volunteer here. > Ted and Dave, why not watch how project is going as mentor and make sure it > follow Apache way if you got time and interest for the project.:) > > Thanks, > > Junping > > Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@gmail.com>于2019年12月3日 周二上午8:43写道： > > > Hi, > > As soon as an additional mentors or two are identified I would call for a > > vote. > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 10:39 Greg Stein, <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems > > > on-board. Let them get their stuff done. > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:23 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Might be less risk and disruption for a few experienced ASF folks to > go > > > > "live amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that > that > > > the > > > > founder's authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL effect. > > > > > > > > Just a thought, > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > On 12/2/19, 12:48 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Very well said. > > > > > > > > I am optimistic. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt <spudan...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good discussion to have had before entering the > > > > incubator, and > > > > > I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can > > > > demonstrate > > > > > during incubation that the founder will in fact step back and > > allow > > > > the > > > > > project to move forward without the founder's undue influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that it's fine for the founder to continue to work on > the > > > > project, > > > > > but in a different role. > > > > > > > > > > I have been standing back and not getting deeply involved with > > this > > > > > discussion because it pertains too closely to me. It is my > > > > intention to > > > > > divest myself of total authority over the project just as > stated > > in > > > > the > > > > > Proposal. Further, it is my intention to stay out of the > initial > > > > > formation of the project as much as possible, in partial > > > fulfillment > > > > of > > > > > Ted Dunning's "thought experiment." I intend to vote 0 on all > > > > decisions > > > > > before the PPMC -- unless, I suppose, I had some very strong > > > opinion > > > > > about some topic. I cannot imagine what topic that might be, > > > > however. > > > > > > > > > > I will be available as needed for information needed by the > > others > > > to > > > > > accomplish this transition but for the most part, just consider > > me > > > > as on > > > > > vacation in place. I will help as much as needed and stay out > of > > > the > > > > > way as much as possible. > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I should say a little more about my motivations in > > this. > > > > > Without some understanding, is is reasonable to be skeptical. > > Yes, > > > > the > > > > > project is very dear to me and the result of many years of > blood, > > > > sweat, > > > > > and tears and years of work mostly done alone for crazy long > > hours. > > > > > Being a "benevolent dictator" does not proper describe my past > > role > > > > > because I was the ONLY person on the project. I did > > everything. I > > > > > still do. > > > > > > > > > > There are two things that motivate me: First, the workload has > > > > gotten > > > > > to be far too much for one person. I dispose of around 60-100 > > > > changes > > > > > per week and really have no personal life left. It is more > than > > I > > > > can > > > > > do (and much more than I can do well). The only real way to > > solve > > > > that > > > > > is to open the project up to others working as equals. The > > second, > > > > and > > > > > more important, motivation is the I am closing in on 70 years > old > > > > now. > > > > > I retired 8 retires ago and I cannot realistically control this > > > > project > > > > > long into the future. For my personal health and sanity, I > > really > > > > need > > > > > to detach and let the project take a life of its own that does > > not > > > > > depend on me in any way. > > > > > > > > > > I would see the biggest risk to a new PPMC would not be me, but > > > > rather > > > > > the sheer volume of work that the PPMC is stepping into. I am > > > > prepared > > > > > for some initial chaos and perhaps a missed release cycle. > But I > > > > have > > > > > come to accept that that is a reasonable price to pay for a > clean > > > > > knife-edge hand-off. > > > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
