Hi Junping, I’m currently mentoring five podlings which is probably two more than I should since I’ve joined the board.
Also, I’m interested in the OSSBot project... Good luck with NuttX! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2019, at 4:57 PM, 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote: > > Sounds like most of concerns are addressed through the discussion. > Just like Justin said, we will call the vote once one or two mentor get > volunteer here. > Ted and Dave, why not watch how project is going as mentor and make sure it > follow Apache way if you got time and interest for the project.:) > > Thanks, > > Junping > > Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@gmail.com>于2019年12月3日 周二上午8:43写道： > >> Hi, >> As soon as an additional mentors or two are identified I would call for a >> vote. >> Thanks, >> Justin >> >>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 10:39 Greg Stein, <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems >>> on-board. Let them get their stuff done. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:23 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Might be less risk and disruption for a few experienced ASF folks to go >>>> "live amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that that >>> the >>>> founder's authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL effect. >>>> >>>> Just a thought, >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> On 12/2/19, 12:48 PM, "Ted Dunning" <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Very well said. >>>> >>>> I am optimistic. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt <spudan...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> This is a good discussion to have had before entering the >>>> incubator, and >>>>> I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can >>>> demonstrate >>>>> during incubation that the founder will in fact step back and >> allow >>>> the >>>>> project to move forward without the founder's undue influence. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note that it's fine for the founder to continue to work on the >>>> project, >>>>> but in a different role. >>>>> >>>>> I have been standing back and not getting deeply involved with >> this >>>>> discussion because it pertains too closely to me. It is my >>>> intention to >>>>> divest myself of total authority over the project just as stated >> in >>>> the >>>>> Proposal. Further, it is my intention to stay out of the initial >>>>> formation of the project as much as possible, in partial >>> fulfillment >>>> of >>>>> Ted Dunning's "thought experiment." I intend to vote 0 on all >>>> decisions >>>>> before the PPMC -- unless, I suppose, I had some very strong >>> opinion >>>>> about some topic. I cannot imagine what topic that might be, >>>> however. >>>>> >>>>> I will be available as needed for information needed by the >> others >>> to >>>>> accomplish this transition but for the most part, just consider >> me >>>> as on >>>>> vacation in place. I will help as much as needed and stay out of >>> the >>>>> way as much as possible. >>>>> >>>>> I suppose I should say a little more about my motivations in >> this. >>>>> Without some understanding, is is reasonable to be skeptical. >> Yes, >>>> the >>>>> project is very dear to me and the result of many years of blood, >>>> sweat, >>>>> and tears and years of work mostly done alone for crazy long >> hours. >>>>> Being a "benevolent dictator" does not proper describe my past >> role >>>>> because I was the ONLY person on the project. I did >> everything. I >>>>> still do. >>>>> >>>>> There are two things that motivate me: First, the workload has >>>> gotten >>>>> to be far too much for one person. I dispose of around 60-100 >>>> changes >>>>> per week and really have no personal life left. It is more than >> I >>>> can >>>>> do (and much more than I can do well). The only real way to >> solve >>>> that >>>>> is to open the project up to others working as equals. The >> second, >>>> and >>>>> more important, motivation is the I am closing in on 70 years old >>>> now. >>>>> I retired 8 retires ago and I cannot realistically control this >>>> project >>>>> long into the future. For my personal health and sanity, I >> really >>>> need >>>>> to detach and let the project take a life of its own that does >> not >>>>> depend on me in any way. >>>>> >>>>> I would see the biggest risk to a new PPMC would not be me, but >>>> rather >>>>> the sheer volume of work that the PPMC is stepping into. I am >>>> prepared >>>>> for some initial chaos and perhaps a missed release cycle. But I >>>> have >>>>> come to accept that that is a reasonable price to pay for a clean >>>>> knife-edge hand-off. >>>>> >>>>> Greg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
