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> On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Andrew Purtell <andrew.purt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Those aren’t comparable though, right?
>
> Solr was a sub project that graduated to a TLP.
Solr is a sub project of Lucene.
>
> Omid and Tephra are projects that instead of becoming TLP’s “graduated” into
> the existing Phoenix TLP.
>
> Not the same thing.
Exactly.
>
> And also I don’t believe this result is unsuccessful. Neither Omid or Tephra
> code bases are read only or discarded. Omid and Tephra past or future
> contributors still have a code base and community to work with. Past Omid and
> Tephra committers can become Phoenix committers. Phoenix is a stable TLP.
> This looks like a success.
>
>
>> On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>>>> On Nov 21, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> HI,
>>>
>>>> I’m going to change podlings.xml to reflect these as “graduated”. If after
>>>> discussion we have consensus to change these to “retired” then the change
>>>> is easy.
>>>
>>> To officially graduate that would need a board proposal would it not?
>>
>> To graduate as a TLP yes. To graduate as a subproject of an existing TLP no.
>> [1]
>>
>> So there are two kinds of graduation as a subproject: successful like Solr,
>> DistributedLog, … and unsuccessful like Omid and Tephra. Certainly the
>> “success” here is hard to measure. Your analysis in the future should
>> consider the resolution tag which has '<resolution tlp="true”/>’ for the
>> TLPs.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> [1]
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#whether_to_graduate_to_subproject_or_to_top_level_project
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
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