I agree,
I think that the "requirement" (Never really knew there was such a requirement)
of being a Member sort of gives you the easy entry path as if you are a member
people expect you to understand the Apache Way.
However that doesn't mean that people not being a member don't get the Apache
Way and hereby should be excluded.
Chris
PS: Sorry for being silent for quite some time ... was 1000000% swamped with
TAC and ACEU preparations ...
Am 13.08.19, 08:29 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
Hi,
I'm a new IPMC Member (no foundation member) and come from a PLC4X which
has graduated months ago.
I already started to help other Podlings a bit.
And I agree with Dave in the sense that we should seek our way not in
locking-out people but in finding ways to draw in more people.
It was already said multiple times that people from "mature" podlings or
freshly graduated projects would be a good call as mentors this should be ONE
way to go.
Julian
Am 13.08.19, 01:42 schrieb "Dave Fisher" <w...@apache.org>:
> On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:26 PM Justin Mclean
<jus...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> I will also note that if the IPMC switches to *voting* Members into
the
>>> IPMC, that the Apache Member will be observing that vote take place
on
>>> private@ through a subscription (they can reply!) or via the
archives. …
>>
>> Which is also the same for any project who votes in a ASF member as a
>> committer or PMC member.
>>
>
> I would counter that any project which creates such a bar for ASF
Members
> may be doing it Wrong :)
>
> (this goes into my general feeling that projects generally need to
lower
> their bars, and become more inclusive)
I really think that we have long precedent to do most of what we need
to do already in place.
I’m -1 on this proposal. I think it is a bad idea. It is so bad that I
would seriously think about volunteering here less.
Just think about how many VOTEs we would need to do when a Podling
comes in. Think about all the pro forma votes and discussions about people.
BORING!
Frankly, I’m quite surprised that this is even being proposed.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Cheers,
> -g
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