Hi Chris, Thanks! My concern is that in the past the IPMC has graduated podlings with 5 PMC members that fairly quickly ended up in the Attic.
With potential committers in view I’m less concerned! There are plenty of successful projects with 5-10 active PMC. +1 Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > The one addition you mention explicitly said, that due to changes at work he > will not be able to participate and is not willing to invest his private time > :-( ... But we are more than willing to re-invite past contributors later, if > they decided not to be carried over now. > > And yes, there are potential candidates that we are keeping an eye on, which > we will probably invite soon. > > We know there are way larger communities in the incubator but as far as I > understand incubation, it's all about the projects learning to become good > Apache communities and that they demonstrate their fitness to do correct > releases. I guess we have proven that and continuing to grow community is and > will remain the goal of every Apache project throughout it's existence. > > Chris > > > Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> herunterladen > > ________________________________ > From: Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 8:14:00 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache PLC4X (incubating) as a TLP > > Hi - > > I am for graduation. I appreciate the need to narrow the PMC to those who are > active. I’ll note that one of your recent additions (noted on the Oct 2018 > report) did not continue while the other did. > > Graduating with only 6 PMC is pretty narrow. Are there other developers > active who look like you will want to add to the committer / PMC soon after > graduation? > > Best Regards, > Dave > >> On Apr 4, 2019, at 6:59 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Since Apache PLC4X (incubating) entered the incubator in December 2017 we >> have attracted quite a number of new PPMCs, >> committers and contributors that didn’t have any experience with Apache and >> the Apache Way. >> >> However have we managed to educate these new individuals and have grown to a >> community that operates nicely following >> the Apache Way. All issues reported have been addressed and our last >> releases usually passed without any objections. >> >> We recently had a discussion on graduation [5] and just finished a community >> vote [2] on the matter which resulted in 7 (binding) +1, 1 (non-binding) +1 >> and no 0 or -1 votes [1]. >> In another discussion prior to the vote we decided to reduce the number of >> PMCs/Committers to those existing who explicitly expressed the wish to be >> included [3]. >> This was due to the fact that when setting up the project outside of Apache, >> a lot of my colleagues initially expressed the wish to participate and we >> included them in the initial contributor list. >> However most of these never did anything and some didn’t even sign up for >> our mailing lists. >> Some have expressed the wish to go emeritus and we used a vote [4] to define >> the initial PMC for the TLP. >> >> We would like to continue the graduation process and hereby ask you all for >> your opinion on this. >> >> Chris >> >> [1] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d53c159c6e8973a6e763635c90bc0f52e0c4fa576da80f553bc4aa40@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E >> [2] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a4cf5b1ad7b59e79ae33f3d09032e7942a7191a319335303e16d286@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E >> [3] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d14e972889dad4ca9cb72f2447edb422df2742f8d71bf140618ba021@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E >> [4] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7a979438fa050bc873a4df0da9b628edaa61d350a17364b837a059d3@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E >> [5] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0a590c8aabced1b46e1200aeface51e9fe34cdf01ed7753a6779ce55@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E >> >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Establish the Apache PLC4X Project >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of >> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish >> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance >> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, >> related to a set of libraries for communicating with industrial >> programmable logic controllers (PLCs) using a variety of protocols but >> with a shared API. >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee >> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache PLC4X Project", be and hereby is >> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache PLC4X Project be and hereby is responsible for >> the creation and maintenance of software related to a set of libraries >> for communicating with industrial programmable logic controllers (PLCs) >> using a variety of protocols but with a shared API; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache PLC4X" be and >> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the >> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache PLC4X >> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the >> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache PLC4X Project; >> and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are >> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache PLC4X Project: >> >> * Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org<mailto:cd...@apache.org>> >> * Julian Feinauer <jfeina...@apache.org<mailto:jfeina...@apache.org>> >> * Justin Mclean <jmcl...@apache.org<mailto:jmcl...@apache.org>> >> * Markus Sommer <msom...@apache.org<mailto:msom...@apache.org>> >> * Sebastian Rühl <sru...@apache.org<mailto:sru...@apache.org>> >> * Tim Mitsch <tmit...@apache.org<mailto:tmit...@apache.org>> >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Christofer Dutz be >> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache PLC4X, to serve in >> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors >> and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, >> removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be >> it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache PLC4X PMC be and hereby is tasked with >> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development >> and increased participation in the Apache PLC4X Project; and be it >> further >> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache PLC4X Project be and hereby is tasked with the >> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator PLC4X podling; and >> be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator >> PLC4X podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter >> discharged. >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
