Hi Dave,

The one addition you mention explicitly said, that due to changes at work he 
will not be able to participate and is not willing to invest his private time 
:-( ... But we are more than willing to re-invite past contributors later, if 
they decided not to be carried over now.

And yes, there are potential candidates that we are keeping an eye on, which we 
will probably invite soon.

We know there are way larger communities in the incubator but as far as I 
understand incubation, it's all about the projects learning to become good 
Apache communities and that they demonstrate their fitness to do correct 
releases. I guess we have proven that and continuing to grow community is and 
will remain the goal of every Apache project throughout it's existence.

Chris


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________________________________
From: Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 8:14:00 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache PLC4X (incubating) as a TLP

Hi -

I am for graduation. I appreciate the need to narrow the PMC to those who are 
active. I’ll note that one of your recent additions (noted on the Oct 2018 
report) did not continue while the other did.

Graduating with only 6 PMC is pretty narrow. Are there other developers active 
who look like you will want to add to the committer / PMC soon after graduation?

Best Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 4, 2019, at 6:59 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Since Apache PLC4X (incubating) entered the incubator in December 2017 we 
> have attracted quite a number of new PPMCs,
> committers and contributors that didn’t have any experience with Apache and 
> the Apache Way.
>
> However have we managed to educate these new individuals and have grown to a 
> community that operates nicely following
> the Apache Way. All issues reported have been addressed and our last releases 
> usually passed without any objections.
>
> We recently had a discussion on graduation [5] and just finished a community 
> vote [2] on the matter which resulted in 7 (binding) +1, 1 (non-binding) +1 
> and no 0 or -1 votes [1].
> In another discussion prior to the vote we decided to reduce the number of 
> PMCs/Committers to those existing who explicitly expressed the wish to be 
> included [3].
> This was due to the fact that when setting up the project outside of Apache, 
> a lot of my colleagues initially expressed the wish to participate and we 
> included them in the initial contributor list.
> However most of these never did anything and some didn’t even sign up for our 
> mailing lists.
> Some have expressed the wish to go emeritus and we used a vote [4] to define 
> the initial PMC for the TLP.
>
> We would like to continue the graduation process and hereby ask you all for 
> your opinion on this.
>
> Chris
>
> [1] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d53c159c6e8973a6e763635c90bc0f52e0c4fa576da80f553bc4aa40@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> [2] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a4cf5b1ad7b59e79ae33f3d09032e7942a7191a319335303e16d286@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> [3] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d14e972889dad4ca9cb72f2447edb422df2742f8d71bf140618ba021@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> [4] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7a979438fa050bc873a4df0da9b628edaa61d350a17364b837a059d3@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> [5] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0a590c8aabced1b46e1200aeface51e9fe34cdf01ed7753a6779ce55@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
>
>
> ---------------------------
>
> Establish the Apache PLC4X Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related to a set of libraries for communicating with industrial
> programmable logic controllers (PLCs) using a variety of protocols but
> with a shared API.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache PLC4X Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache PLC4X Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to a set of libraries
> for communicating with industrial programmable logic controllers (PLCs)
> using a variety of protocols but with a shared API; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache PLC4X" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache PLC4X
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache PLC4X Project;
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache PLC4X Project:
>
> * Christofer Dutz    <cd...@apache.org<mailto:cd...@apache.org>>
> * Julian Feinauer    <jfeina...@apache.org<mailto:jfeina...@apache.org>>
> * Justin Mclean      <jmcl...@apache.org<mailto:jmcl...@apache.org>>
> * Markus Sommer      <msom...@apache.org<mailto:msom...@apache.org>>
> * Sebastian Rühl     <sru...@apache.org<mailto:sru...@apache.org>>
> * Tim Mitsch         <tmit...@apache.org<mailto:tmit...@apache.org>>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Christofer Dutz be
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache PLC4X, to serve in
> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
> and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
> removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
> it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache PLC4X PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
> and increased participation in the Apache PLC4X Project; and be it
> further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache PLC4X Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator PLC4X podling; and
> be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> PLC4X podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> discharged.
>


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