Hi,

I like Craigs suggestion and I'm aware of the problem with the ASF Policy if we 
would skip the formal IPMC Vote.
On the other hand in PLC4X we had a discussion about a regular release cycle to 
bring new features to the users as fast as possible and decided to skip that 
for now, to keep the burden on the IPMC low (and we usually have 3 IPMC / 
Mentor Votes as we have very active Mentors).
I agree with this decision of the PPMC but I see a problem with that, as the 
IPMC Vote should be something to help podlings (aside from the necessity by 
Policy) but not "negatively" impact them.

Perhaps it helps to see the IPMC Votes more as a "take notice" in case that 
there are already 3 +1 Votes. This means that the vote is open for 72hrs 
formally, but IPMC members do not feel to have to go to action (usually as PMC 
member one "should" participate in votes... although this is practiced 
differently in the IPMC for good reasons) but CAN if they feel like.
This would especially mean that podlings should be encouraged to formulate 
their votes more explicit about whether there are already enough IPMC Votes or 
not.

Julian


Am 01.04.19, 23:51 schrieb "Justin Mclean" <jus...@classsoftware.com>:

    Hi,
    
    I'd also like to see those mentors / IPMC members vote with more than just 
a +1 and provide a list of what they checked. If they could use something like 
this all the better [1].
    
    I wouldn’t be for removing the second step of letting the IPMC look at it, 
reasonably often serious issues are found in that step. By skilling that we 
risk some podlings going all the way to propose graduation while having 
releases that don’t follow ASF policy. This is a situation I’d like to avoid.
    
    Thanks,
    Justin
    
    1. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorReleaseChecklist
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