Hi - I took Greg’s challenge and did research on the roots. Mailing List Archives are important resources!
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 2:28 PM Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 1:11 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Most of the projects mentioned so far have been “internal” >> >> >> Only because all the umbrella-derived projects haven't been mentioned. Most >> of that "spin out to a TLP" was done a decade ago, so they've been omitted >> from discussion. >> >> >>> - code developed to help run the ASF. “External” projects also go >>> straight-to-TLP and are more important because they have many more users >>> and greater impact on the world. >>> >> >> I recall only two "external" projects have gone straight-to-TLP: Serf, >> Zest/Polygene. I'm guessing Dave, et al, will surface others, if they >> exist. I would disagree with your latter statement; they went to TLP based >> on oversight, rather than on userbase/impact. >> >> I would suggest: the 90% of straight-to-TLP have been "internal" or >> "spun-out". > > My rough cut: > > Straight to TLP: > Bahir, DRAT, Kibble, Orc, Serf, STeVe, Whimsy, Zest > > Pre-incubator: > Ant, Jakarta > Avalon, Jakarta > DB, Jakarta > HTTP Server, Jakarta, Perl, PHP, TCL, XML > > Spun out from elsewhere: > Archiva, Maven ? > Arrow, Drill > Avro, Hadoop > Axis, Web Services > Bookkeeper, Zookeeper > Camel, ? XML ? > Commons Jakarta > Continuum, Maven > Excalibur, Jakarta > Forrest, XML > Gump, Jakarta > Hadoop, Nutch > HBase, Hadoop > HiveMind, Jakarta > HTTPComponents, Jakarta > JAMES, Jakarta > JMeter, Jakarta > Karaf, Felix > Logging Services, Jakarta > Lucene, Jakarta > Mahout, Lucene > Maven, Jakarta > Mina, Directory > POI, Jakarta > Quetzalcoatl, Mod_python - see mod python.org > Royale, Flex > Santuario, Rename of XML-Security > Shale, Struts > Struts, Jakarta > Tiles, Struts? > Tomcat, Jakarta > Turbine, Jakarta > Velocity, Jakarta > Web Services Looks like it was built as an Uber project out of some of XML in Jan 2002. > Xalan, XML out of breakup > Xerces, November 1999 > XML Graphics, XML out of breakup ???? > Yetus, Hadoop > Zookepper Hadoop Regards, Dave > > Non-code PMC: > Attic, Community Development, Incubator, Labs, Public Relations > > - Sam Ruby > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
