On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 1:57 PM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> .... > > copyright issues on the cute cat and rabbit photos [1] probably mean > that they cannot put that release in the ASF distribution area even if they > do get 3 +1s without legal and infra approval. > > We have to look at risk here. Is there a risk that the owner of the images > is going to make trouble? > I am kind of stunned to hear this. The web site where the images came from says: We have an extensive commercial picture library of professional Nature and > Pet photographs. Our images are sold on a rights managed basis and can be > bought for specific and exclusive uses. All the images on this website are > ©Warren Photographic and watermarked with our logo. (see https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/about.php) This sounds a lot like serious photographers trying to make a living. Anybody who goes to the trouble of watermarking their images is pretty serious about their work and about people stealing that work. But aside from that, quite frankly, Apache is not in the business of judging whether somebody is powerful enough or aware enough or rich enough or even just cantankerous enough to make trouble for us about copyright infringement. We don't even do adversarial forks of open source material where the license says that it is perfectly fine to do. So how can anybody imagine that it is OK to steal some images from people who do not grant the rights to use just because they aren't likely to "make trouble"? > > > > What do other IPMC members think? > > I think that if others want to dig into the details, I would encourage > them to do so. But at this point, I do not believe that the issues you > raised warrant a -1 on the release. The issue of the photos has been previously raised. The suggested solution was to delete the photos. It should be done.
