I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a really different field of use.
I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it described a historical language. If it is an active open source project, let's not collide. So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds like someone should check my work... Kenn On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:14 PM Byung-Gon Chun <bgc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > JAL is also a trademark of Japan Air Lines. > > Best, > Gon > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:08 AM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Hi - > > > > JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the > > field of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP, > > Brand. > > > > http://justanotherlanguage.org > > > > Regards, > > Dave > > > > > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Antoine, > > > > > > I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we > > get > > > to that stage. > > > > > > I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal. > > My > > > $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for > > confusion > > > would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal. And while JAL, the > > > programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO > > to a > > > long standing project to just hijack the name. > > > > > > If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the > > > name. My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding > a > > > trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name. > > > > > > With Jal being an existing OSS project ( > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) & > > > http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using > > that > > > name. For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be > > > convinced differently. > > > > > > Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive > so > > my > > > apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench. I just happened to > > catch > > > the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so > > > here we are... > > > > > > Regards, > > > KAM > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kevin A. McGrail > > > Member, Apache Software Foundation > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain > > of > > >> the project. > > >> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about > > name > > >> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation. > > >> > > >> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread: > > >> > > >> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed? > > >> > > >> [0]: > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Antoine, > > >>> > > >>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much > > traffic > > >>> here, I missed that thread. Jal (just another language) is a > > >>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) & > > >>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/ > > >>> > > >>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another > > >>> open source project name. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> KAM > > >>> > > >>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote: > > >>>> Thanks all. > > >>>> > > >>>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for > > >> other names. > > >>>> Thank you for your participation! > > >>>> > > >>>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the > > proposal. > > >>>> > > >>>> We are now set to open the podling. > > >>>> > > >>>> Cheers, > > >>>> > > >>>> Antoine > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net > > > > >> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> +1 for Jal > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regards > > >>>>> JB > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote: > > >>>>>> Hi all, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the > incubator > > >> [0]. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a > better > > >> name for the project [1]. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Here are the names: > > >>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line > with > > >> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2]. > > >>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires > > >> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme) > > >>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a > > >> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in > > the > > >> chain theme as well) > > >>>>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote > > >> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early > morning > > >> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of > > all > > >> the other dew drops. > > >>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other > > dew > > >> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist > > >> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please > > >> feel free to justify your choice. > > >>>>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence > of > > a > > >> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick > a > > >> name. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until > Tuesday > > >> afternoon PST time. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Antoine > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [0]: > > >> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > >>>>>> [1]: > > >> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > >>>>>> [2]: > https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk > > >>>>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net > > >>>>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > >>>>> jbono...@apache.org > > >>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net > > >>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Kevin A. McGrail > > >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation > > >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > -- > Byung-Gon Chun >
