Hi -

JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the field 
of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP, Brand.

http://justanotherlanguage.org

Regards,
Dave

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Antoine,
> 
> I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we get
> to that stage.
> 
> I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.  My
> $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for confusion
> would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal.  And while JAL, the
> programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO to a
> long standing project to just hijack the name.
> 
> If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
> name.  My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
> trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
> 
> With Jal being an existing OSS project (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using that
> name.  For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
> convinced differently.
> 
> Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so my
> apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench.  I just happened to catch
> the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
> here we are...
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
> 
> 
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> 
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name> wrote:
> 
>> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of
>> the project.
>> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name
>> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
>> 
>> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
>> 
>> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
>> 
>> [0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine,
>>> 
>>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
>>> here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
>>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
>>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
>>> 
>>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
>>> open source project name.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>> 
>>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>> Thanks all.
>>>> 
>>>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
>> other names.
>>>> Thank you for your participation!
>>>> 
>>>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
>>>> 
>>>> We are now set to open the podling.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 for Jal
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
>> [0].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
>> name for the project [1].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here are the names:
>>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
>> chain theme as well)
>>>>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
>> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
>> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
>> the other dew drops.
>>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
>> feel free to justify your choice.
>>>>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
>> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
>> name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
>> afternoon PST time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [0]:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>> [1]:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>>>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
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