Thanks for the feedback everyone. The general outline makes sense to me and it is reassuring that I didn't miss anything too obvious.
I'll wait to see if a discussion is going to develop on the exact form this is going to happen in. Cheers, Lars On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 11:14 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi Lars, > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:35 PM Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > ...Proposals (and this especially) are a way to be granted something > that you > > usually have to work for (prove merit).... > > I agree that being listed as an initial committer on podling proposals > is a way to get committership without necessarily demonstrating merit > in the ASF. > > And that might lead people to becoming PMC members once their podling > graduate. > > In podlings what I've been mentoring I have often asked for the list > of PMC members to be reviewed before graduation, to verify that those > people have earned their role by providing value to the podling. I > think that's a good filter to avoid the problem the you mention. > > For straight-to-TLP projects, like your Training proposal, I think the > initial PMC should consist only of Apache Members. We haven't had many > of those so far so I don't think we have a rule for that but that > seems reasonable, as there's no guidance outside of the PMC for a > straight-toTLP project. > > Once the project is created the PMC can elect committers as quickly as > it wants, and decide who can also join the PMC. > > I think saying "The initial PMC of a straight-to-TLP project consists > of Apache Members only" gives you a simple rule to accept candidates, > is reassuring for the Board when it accepts creating the project and > doesn't block quick project growth in any way. I recommend using that > rule for your Training project if it aims to go straight to TLP. > > Interested people can still be listed somewhere but the best way for > them to demonstrate interest is to join the project's lists once > created. > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >