Hi Lars, On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:35 PM Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com> wrote: > ...Proposals (and this especially) are a way to be granted something that you > usually have to work for (prove merit)....
I agree that being listed as an initial committer on podling proposals is a way to get committership without necessarily demonstrating merit in the ASF. And that might lead people to becoming PMC members once their podling graduate. In podlings what I've been mentoring I have often asked for the list of PMC members to be reviewed before graduation, to verify that those people have earned their role by providing value to the podling. I think that's a good filter to avoid the problem the you mention. For straight-to-TLP projects, like your Training proposal, I think the initial PMC should consist only of Apache Members. We haven't had many of those so far so I don't think we have a rule for that but that seems reasonable, as there's no guidance outside of the PMC for a straight-toTLP project. Once the project is created the PMC can elect committers as quickly as it wants, and decide who can also join the PMC. I think saying "The initial PMC of a straight-to-TLP project consists of Apache Members only" gives you a simple rule to accept candidates, is reassuring for the Board when it accepts creating the project and doesn't block quick project growth in any way. I recommend using that rule for your Training project if it aims to go straight to TLP. Interested people can still be listed somewhere but the best way for them to demonstrate interest is to join the project's lists once created. -Bertrand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
