What Roman said. And also, I make a distinction between communication (information gathering) and decision making. The Apache Way is that decisions occur on-list. It doesn’t say that all communication/information gathering is on-list.
Julian > On Jan 14, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:14 AM Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> wrote: >> On 1/14/2019 1:01 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: >>> I don’t think the “decisions should be made on-list” principle applies to >>> all communication. (Otherwise why would we allow hallway conversations at >>> conferences?) I’d rather that we make better decisions than be slave to >>> principle. >>> >> It really does apply to everything. > > As Mark Twain would say: all generalizations are false. Including this one ;-) > >> Even if you have the best meeting >> in the world, you bring back minutes and decisions made off list for >> ratification. That way there is then an archive of the decision and >> everyone can participate. > > I think if you unpack this statement you will see that there's an implicit > assumption about "collaborative things". That's 90+% of what ASF does. > And the statement applies there 100% -- no disagreement there. > > But there's also a small portion of things that have to do with humans, > personalities and personnel. That's where what - Julian mentioned really > starts making sense. At least in my book. > > Thanks, > Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
