On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:53 AM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Mick, > > A few comments below. > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 1:58 AM mck <m...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Dear Apache Incubator Community, >> >> Please accept the following proposal for presentation and discussion: >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SkyWalkingProposal >> >> SkyWalking is a distributed tracing solution that provides automatic >> instrumentation, coming from a community of Chinese contributors. This >> community has been involved with and part of the Distributed Tracing >> workshops held by Adrian Cole (who maintains and develops Zipkin) and >> the OpenTracing initiative. >> >> Sheng Wu reached out to me recently asking me to Champion the proposal >> because of my involvement with OpenTracing, Zipkin, and these >> Distributed Tracing workshops. The whole SkyWalking community has >> demonstrated a keenness to join Apache, as is seen on their GitHub >> issues discussing the matter. I'm excited to have been asked and have >> gladly accepted. Furthermore at last year's ApacheCon in Vancouver I met >> Luke Han during the ASF media workshop and watched his presentation >> about the challenges of opening up ASF to chinese communities and >> developers. Because of this we have reached out to Luke Han as an >> additional mentor. The result of this was that Sheng met Luke in person >> last weekend in Shanghai. Sheng also met Nicolas Hedhman in Shanghai. >> And Willem Ning Jiang has also been added as a mentor, who is also from >> Huawei and is currently involved in the ServiceComb proposal. Otherwise >> I'm aware that I'm new to the Incubator and its processes, so any >> additional mentors familiar with the finer details and precedence will >> be most welcomed. >> >> regards, >> Mick >> >> ---- >> >> = Abstract = >> Skywalking is an APM (application performance monitor), especially for >> microservice, Cloud Native and container-based architecture systems. >> Also known as a distributed tracing system. It provides an automatic way >> to instrument applications: no need to change any of the source code of >> the target application; and an collector with an very high efficiency >> streaming module. >> >> = Proposal = >> The goal of this proposal is to bring the existing Skywalking >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking codebase and existing >> developers and community into the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) in >> order to build a global, diverse and self-governed open source community >> in APM field. >> > > Who owns this code? Will an SGA be provided, or ICLAs from contributors? > If ICLAs, are there any of the current 16 contributors who will not provide > an ICLA? > I believe this question is still outstanding. Does anyone have any answers on this? > > >> >> This project started in Open Source on GitHub about more than 2 years >> ago. Beginning with a small SDK and collector. So far the OpenSkywalking >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization governs the project >> through the PMC and Committer Team. The major contributors are from >> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group, >> dangdang.com and cloudwise (APM vendor). >> >> > While its understandable outside of Apache the contributions come from > companies, while within Apache the contributions should be expected from > individuals. Although I highly like the openness I see from this project. > > > >> OpenSkywalking is submitting this proposal to donate the Skywalking >> sources code and associated artifacts (documentation, web site content, >> wiki, etc.) to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache >> License, Version 2.0. These artifacts are currently available on GitHub >> at https://github.com/OpenSkywalking and include: >> * Skywalking: The java sniffer(agent) for collecting data, and >> collector for analysing and persistence. >> * Skywalking-UI: The web UI for skywalking APM >> >> Voted on submitting the proposal to the Incubator. >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/11 >> >> = Background = >> Mircro-service, Cloud Native and container-based architecture system are >> becoming more and more popular, so the traditional monitoring, like >> application loggings, can provide less information because of the >> distributed isolates the relations. Based on the Google Dapper paper >> https://research.google.com/pubs/pub36356.html, many tracing systems >> born. The OpenSkywalking organisation was created with Skywalking made >> based on tracing, but not just tracing, it adds additional value by >> reducing the sniffer (agent) cost, analysis and visualization. >> >> In 2015, Skywalking project started, when service-oriented architecture >> became popular. At first, skywalking provided a very simple SDK, and >> collected data into a HBASE cluster. After we opened on the GitHub, the >> community gives the feedbacks about how difficult to maintain a HBase >> cluster, even harder than the applications under monitored. So, in 2.x >> 2016, skywalking provided a self-designed storage, and update the SDK to >> a javaagent with supporting auto-instrumentation. Then since 2017, more >> and more contributors joined, we set up the PMC team and committer team. >> Skywalking evolved to an APM, and more and more features provided since >> then. >> >> = Rationale = >> Skywalking includes these primary parts: >> 1. Provide an anto-instrument sniffer, which is based on Javaagent and >> collects events and traces happened inside JVM, with little CPU/Memory >> cost. >> 2. An extendable `tracing data protocol suit` with gRPC and HTTP >> implementations, is compatible for other language agent or SDK. >> 3. Provide Collector, which accepts the `tracing data protocol suit`, >> and does the analysis and aggregation inside for detecting the >> relationships among applications and services, generating the metrics, >> and altering. >> 4. Provided our own UI, which visualizes the topological graph of >> related applications and services, trace stack, metrics and alerting. >> >> Also, Skywalking team is passionate about community cooperations. >> Skywalking is a supported tracer and member of OpenTracing >> http://opentracing.io . Also we take part in the TraceContext Specs >> https://github.com/TraceContext/tracecontext-spec , which is about >> `tracing context propagation format`. The founder of the project, Sheng >> Wu, is the member of these organizations, >> >> There is a strong need for an open, easy-to-use APM towards helping >> today's DevOps people to monitor their running systems, while also being >> easy and transparent to maintain and modify. >> The Skywalking has been an hot open source project in GitHub. We feel >> that by moving to Apache it will help us work in a more global and open >> way, presenting the project as a commercial friendly but vendor neutral >> technology. Under Apache's strong governance and existing processes, >> hope is also to make the Skywalking releases more reliable, as is >> crucial for monitoring systems running in any Application Zone. >> >> = Initial Goals = >> Our initial goals are to bring Skywalking into the ASF. The most >> important things are following ASF's governance module, and integrating >> with Apache development process. Also moving the existing codebase to an >> Apache git repository. >> >> = Current Status = >> == Meritocracy == >> Skywalking was originally created by Sheng Wu, 吴晟 >> https://github.com/wu-sheng himself in May 2015, and opened in GitHub in >> Nov. 8th, 2015. The project now has committers and users from many >> companies. The newer committers of the project are guided by the existed >> PMC and Committer Team members, by reviewing and discussing with them. >> When they are ready, PMC will start a vote to promote him/her to become >> a member of PMC and Committer Team. >> Also after the founder, Sheng Wu, joined Huawei in 2017, Huawei DevCloud >> decided to contribute and support the project. So he personally leads >> the interested developers, and helps them to join the community quickly >> and efficiently. Now we have set `Huawei Devcloud Contributor Team` for >> them. >> Contributions are always welcomed, highly valued. A lot of energy is >> allocated to ensure help to all wishing to contribute. >> >> == Community == >> OpenSkwaylking is supported by 5 companies: Huawei, shurenyun.com, >> dangdang.com, tydic, nutz.cn , which are both contributing to the >> project and also used it in product, also provide many important >> feedbacks from their actual scenarios. >> The contributors, who can provide employer informantions, are from >> Huawei DevCloud Team, Tydic, Oneapm (APM vendor), Alibaba Group, >> dangdang.com, cloudwise (APM vendor), jd.com, cig.cn, hecom.cn, and >> www.suixingpay.com. >> >> == Core Developers == >> The core developers are a diverse group of experienced open source >> developers and team leaders. >> * PMC members – >> >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#project-management-committee-pmc >> * Committer Team members – >> >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#committer-team > > > Please replace this with a list of all current contributors, with names in > english. > > >> >> >> == Known Risks == >> The project is well known in global tracing and APM field, and live more >> than 2 years. We are not sure there exists a risk, but definitely have a >> challenge for us. So far, the contributors, committers and confirmed >> product use cases are all from China. >> === Language and Culture === >> Concerns have been raised about language challenges and, as is typical >> for developers not strong in english, aware that the community can be >> shy in a debate or disagreement when english is used. Having looked >> through the project's history this concern can be seen to be minor. The >> commitlog is in english, and so are the tickets and the pull requests. >> The website and documentation is equally both english and chinese. The >> community has been strict upon itself to ensure it became and stays so. >> The use of chinese should not be seen as a problem, it is a multilingual >> world, but it is important that english speakers feel included and able >> to contribute freely to the project without having to ask for >> translations. To deal with poor or broken english it's important that a >> gentler and inclusive community is fostered. >> > > Where have concerns over language challenges been raised? > > >> >> == Orphaned products == >> The contributors and community cooperation brings the project from a >> small concept into a real APM system. So far, many companies, e.g. >> Huawei DevCloud, dangdang.com, tydic, jd.com, have their own >> independency contribute team for Skywalking. So this is not risk of any >> signs of orphaned or abandoned code. >> >> == Inexperience with Open Source == >> The founder of the project, Sheng Wu, is an open source lover. He has >> contributed for these open source projects: OpenTracing-Specification, >> OpenTracing-Java, Motan, Hprose, OpenTracing specification-zh, >> apache/incubator-rocketmq. >> >> Hongtao Gao, our committer team member, is the major maintainer of >> sharding-jdbc https://github.com/shardingjdbc/sharding-jdbc and >> elastic-job https://github.com/elasticjob/elastic-job since 2014. >> >> The project are following these two experienced open source people's >> guidance. And glad to learn from the Apache Way. >> >> == Homogenous Developers == >> The confirmed contributors list: >> >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/blob/master/README.md#contributors >> . >> As mentioned above in the Community section. >> >> == Reliance on Salaried Developers == >> First of all, most members of the PMC and Committer Team, are paid by >> their employers (Huawei, Tydic, dangdang.com and OneAPM) to contribute >> to this project. But we have to say, many of them have more than one >> employer in the past 3 years contribution, but the contributions are >> never stopped. We don't just depend on salaried contributors only. >> Skywalking itself and the distributed tracing field are very attractive >> and important for every company the contributors work in, and they have >> no reason to stop them. Contributions and new committers are expected. >> >> == Relationships with Other Apache Products == >> HBase was used as a backend before being rewritten, and that ZooKeeper, >> httpcomponents, log4j and junit are used. Also we are considering all >> java projects, especially big data technology, e.g. Hadoop, Hbase, >> Cassandra. >> >> == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand == >> The ASF has a strong brand, and that brand is in itself attractive. >> Skywalking will benefit from world wide collaboration and use cases. The >> Apache brand will be duly respected and honored in regards to marketing >> and publicity. Further more, with the help of Incubator PMC, we will >> make every effort to follow the rules and policies of the ASF. >> >> == Documentation == >> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/tree/master/docs >> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking/wiki >> >> == Initial Source == >> The project consists of two distinct codebases: the server and the UI. >> These have existed as separate git repositories. >> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking >> * https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/skywalking-ui >> >> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan == >> The project is under Apache Licensed 2.0 already. As soon as Skywalking >> is approved to join Apache, we can transfer of source code to the Apache >> Foundation. There is no legal issue. >> All source artifacts (code and documentation) will be assigned copyright >> to the ASF. Currently all artifacts are copyright to 'OpenSkywalking >> Organization', so effort in this process pertains mostly to obtaining >> the individual and corporation contributor agreements (ICLAs and CCLAs) >> from all committers and PMC. >> >> == External Dependencies == >> * Byte-buddy (Apache 2.0) >> * gRPC (Apache 2.0) >> * netty (Apache 2.0) >> * guava (Apache 2.0) >> * elasticsearch (Apache 2.0) >> * H2 Driver (MPL 2.0 or EPL 1.0) >> * Zookeeper Client (Apache 2.0) >> * disruptor (Apache 2.0) >> * junit (MPL) >> * mockito (MIT) >> * powermock (Apache 2.0) >> * Spring (Apache 2.0) >> * gson (Apache 2.0) >> * httpcomponents (Apache 2.0) >> * log4j (Apache 2.0) >> * vis (Apache 2.0) >> * webjars-boostrap (Apache 2.0) >> * animate.css (MIT) >> * jquery (js.foundation) >> * jquery-ui (js.foundation) >> * jsView (MIT) >> * metisMenu (MIT) >> * d3 (BSD-3) >> * echarts (BSD-3) >> * DataTables (MIT) >> * requirejs (MIT) >> * vue (MIT) >> >> = Required Resources = >> == Mailing Lists == >> * priv...@skywalking.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions) >> * comm...@skywalking.incubator.apache.org >> * d...@skywalking.incubator.apache.org >> * u...@skywalking.incubator.apache.org >> >> == Git Repositories == >> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking.git >> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-skywalking-ui.git >> >> > The ASF does offer "gitbox" or writable github repositories. If this is > something useful to you, I would recommend it, especially if you're already > using github. > > >> == Issue Tracking == >> GitHub Issues or JIRA Project Skywalking. >> To be discussed further, there's a desire to continue to use GitHub >> issues and it's now visible that other projects are using this. >> >> == Initial Incubator PMC == >> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng >> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng >> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae >> >> == Initial Committer == >> * 吴晟, Sheng Wu @wu-sheng >> * 彭勇升, Yongsheng Peng @peng-yongsheng >> * 张鑫, Xin Zhang @ascrutae >> * 高洪涛, Hongtao Gao @hanahmily >> * 柏杨, Yang Bai @bai-yang >> * 王凯, Kai Wang @oracle219 >> * 李运涛, Yuntao Li @lytscu >> * 汪盛, Sheng Wang @titsquid >> * 司冬雪, Dongxue Si @IluckySi >> * 张科伟, Kewei Zhang @zhangkewei >> > > > These two sections concern me. Note that podlings have PPMCs. I cannot > accept three new IPMC members on a podling proposal without much > explanation about how they are familiar with the Apache Way. > > Typically, podlings come into the Incubator with the PPMC == the initial > committers. Is that what you are trying to convey here? > > I'm not sure why there are names with @ in front. Are these proposed ASF > usernames? > > >> >> = Champion = >> * Michael Semb Wever, m...@apache.org >> >> Voted for skywalking Incubator champion. >> https://github.com/OpenSkywalking/Organization/issues/12 >> >> = Mentors = >> * Michael Semb Wever, m...@apache.org >> * Luke Han, luke...@apache.org >> * Willem Ning Jiang, ningji...@apache.org >> >> Skywalking received a lot helps from Michael Semb Wever about this >> proposal and Apache way. Set face-to-face meeting with three Apache >> members: Luke Han, Nicolas Hedhman, Willem Ning Jiang. They helps us a >> lot. >> >> == Sponsoring Entity == >> We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>
