On 1 December 2017 at 18:57, Mike Jumper <mike.jum...@guac-dev.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 10:06 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 1 December 2017 at 13:52, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > ...
>> >
>> > At the same time, if we're saying we want to limit the creation of user@
>> > lists, if a podling is already established and using forums, discourse,
>> > slack, google groups, etc, do we recommend to keep those open for user type
>> > questions, until they feel they are ready to move to Apache fully?
>> >
>>
>> That seems to me to be the sensible approach.
>>
>> There's no need to move user mailing lists until the podling actually 
>> graduates.
>>
>> Also, if the podling fails to graduate, the user ASF list would be
>> closed, whereas the original forums etc could continue as before.
>>
>
> IMHO, avoiding establishing TLP-like procedures for fear that a
> podling may not graduate (or postponing establishing those procedures
> until graduation) is self-defeating.
>
> Speaking as a member of a recently-graduated podling that joined the
> Incubator with an established user base, I think we would not have
> done as well without a user@ list.

So how did your users communicate before the podling was established?
Surely that would have continued to work during incubation even if the
user list was not created?

> - Mike
>
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