My plan for PPMC votes is to simply send out "friendly reminder" emails every 24 hours after the vote deadline has passed.
On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > Pat Ferrel wrote on 4/22/17 11:46 AM: > > Probably the wrong place for this but… > > > > What do people think about a governance change for approving releases > > through the IPMC to wit: > > > > A week of no vote activity over the release proposal of a podling > > should be considered a passing vote. In other words the IPMC is to > > become a vetoing group. > > No, because as noted in this thread the board and Legal Affairs > Committee already have a policy for Apache software releases: > > https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#policy > > This is the spot where all the little legal bits of having a corporation > intersects with the Incubator's ability to mentor new podlings in how to > effectively run projects in the Apache Way. However that legal policy > in particular is not going to change IMO. > > Personally, I support any proposals that help ensure podling mentors are > more actively engaged, and can better serve as the formal IPMC votes for > podling releases. Great to see some serious discussion about that in > this thread and the upcoming IPMC chair election. The incubator has > been getting better organized as a whole over the past few years, and > keeps improving, which is great to see. > > > I propose this for 2 reasons: 1) lack of votes or attention from the > > IPMC seems all too prevalent and puts an undo drag on the energy and > > velocity of community involvement. 2) the release has already been > > voted on and checked by at least 3 PMC members of the podling (which > > has ASF mentors in most all cases) so a veto role by the IPMC seems > > to have minimum danger to the ASF system of checks and balances.> > > Yes, but the whole point of Incubation is that a podling is not yet a > project. Only Apache PMCs have the authority to make a release, thus > only IPMC votes count. On one hand this must feel incredibly annoying. > On the other hand, it is the #1 reason we have the ASF as a corporation > - to prevent the individual release manager from potentially getting > sued *personally* for problems with the release. > > The fact that we have these documented policies, and that the board and > IPMC enforces them means that legally, releases are acts of the > Foundation. Thus if anyone ever were to sue, they'd sue the Foundation > (which has insurance and legal counsel) and not individual committers. > > -- > > - Shane, IPMC Member > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- James Bognar
