As the project included in the proposed graduation resolution (look for [1]), a set of by-laws can help.
[1] RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Metron PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Metron Project; and be it further Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Dave; I think that we all appreciate the concerns around insulating > the project from a single sponsor. The fact that we do take the ASF > processes seriously is one of the things that makes the community > comforted, I think. I appreciate the diligence in ensuring that we have > our ducks in a row from that perspective. > > Best, > > Casey > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Thank you for the answers. > > > > I am all for graduation if Metron. > > > > Regards, > > Dave > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > > > To clarify, we have 24 PPMC members, of which 12 are > > Hortonworks-affiliated > > > and 12 are not. We have 6 additional committers who are not PPMC > members. > > > Some of them are affiliated and some of them are not. For the purpose > of > > > this, we only captured the affiliations of the PPMC members. > > > > > > I did some quick analysis of the git log and found the following: > > > > > > % Commits by Hortonworkers: 79% > > > > > > % Contributors affiliated to Hortonworks: 42% > > > > > > In associating affiliation, I am being as generous as possible and > > > including people who I know to work at Hortonworks who may or may not > be > > in > > > the engineering organization. I know that some of these people are > > > contributing to Metron in their spare time as independent open source > > > contributions. > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Casey > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:03 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com > > > > >> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem. > > >>>> > > >>>> I will admit upfront that I am a Hortonworks employee, so there is > > >>>> potential for bias. But I always try to wear the right hat, even > when > > my > > >>>> position may not please my employer. > > >>>> > > >>>> As a mentor (to this and other podlings), I try to instill that > ethic > > >>>> during incubation and thereafter. > > >>>> > > >>>> In the Metron community I see some that share that ethic. They > > selected > > >> a > > >>>> PMC Chair that gets it and I trust will serve the project well in > that > > >> role. > > >>>> > > >>>> Yes, the project is Hortonworks-heavy. But I think they are doing > > things > > >>>> right in terms of the Apache Way. I also intend to participate in > the > > >> PMC > > >>>> to help ensure it remains that way. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> Agreed - from what I have seen, Hortonworks as a company understands > > the > > >>> Apache Way and is able to ensure that it is held in open source > > projects. > > >>> I see no concerns with Metron graduating. > > >> > > >> Sure, but the question is not about whether or not HortonWorks > > understands > > >> the Apache Way. It is what happens to Metron if HortonWorks is no > longer > > >> interested in the project? > > >> > > >> Given the experience with OpenOffice I think we need to always ask > this. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Dave > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> -Taylor > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This is a list of 24 of which 12 are Hortonworks. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Can we assume that the other 12 of which 6 are PPMC are > unaffiliated? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> What percentage of the commits are coming from Hortonworks > affiliated > > >>>> contributors? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>> Dave > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Of course, very fair question. Also, yes, the we have 36 > committers > > >> as > > >>>> all > > >>>>>> PPMC members are committers. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The affiliations are as follows: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Hortonworks: > > >>>>>> * Sheetal Dolas (sheetal_dolas) > > >>>>>> * Larry McCay (lmccay) > > >>>>>> * P. Taylor Goetz (ptgoetz) > > >>>>>> * Ryan Merriman (rmerriman) > > >>>>>> * James Sirota (jsirota) > > >>>>>> * Casey Stella (cstella) > > >>>>>> * David Lyle (lyle) > > >>>>>> * Nick Allen (nickallen) > > >>>>>> * George Vetticaden (gvetticaden) > > >>>>>> * Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli (vinodkv) > > >>>>>> * Kiran Komaravolu (kirankom) > > >>>>>> * Michael Perez (mperez) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cisco: > > >>>>>> * Debo Dutta (ddutta) > > >>>>>> * Discovery Gerdes (discovery) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Rackspace: > > >>>>>> * Oskar Zabik (smogg) > > >>>>>> * Andrew Hartnett (dev_warlord) > > >>>>>> * Paul Kehrer (reaperhulk) > > >>>>>> * Sean Schulte (sirsean) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> B23: > > >>>>>> * Mark Bittmann (mbittmann) > > >>>>>> * Dave Hirko (dbhirko) > > >>>>>> * Brad Kolarov (bjkolly) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Mantech: > > >>>>>> * Charles Porter (cporter) > > >>>>>> * Ray Urciuoli (rurcioli) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Fogbeam Labs: > > >>>>>> * Phillip Rhodes (prhodes) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:34 PM, P. Taylor Goetz < > > ptgo...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 7:38 PM, John D. Ament < > johndam...@apache.org > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM P. Taylor Goetz < > > ptgo...@gmail.com > > >>> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The community > > has > > >>>>>>> come a > > >>>>>>>>> long way, learned to make solid releases, build a sustainable > > >>>> community, > > >>>>>>>>> and follow the Apache Way. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> One minor nit: The paddling status page is missing a few Apache > > >> IDs, > > >>>>>>> but I > > >>>>>>>>> see them in the resolution, so it's an easy fix. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Paddlings are always out of sync :-P > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> One other nit - I'm not sure why you only have 6 committers. I > > >> think > > >>>> you > > >>>>>>>> mean 30 committers (all PMC members are committers). Can you > > >> provide > > >>>> the > > >>>>>>>> associations of PMC members and employers? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Metron PPMC, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Can you respond? I feel this is a valid question. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -Taylor > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> --------- > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. > org > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > --------- > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
