Thanks Dave; I think that we all appreciate the concerns around insulating the project from a single sponsor. The fact that we do take the ASF processes seriously is one of the things that makes the community comforted, I think. I appreciate the diligence in ensuring that we have our ducks in a row from that perspective.
Best, Casey On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for the answers. > > I am all for graduation if Metron. > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > To clarify, we have 24 PPMC members, of which 12 are > Hortonworks-affiliated > > and 12 are not. We have 6 additional committers who are not PPMC members. > > Some of them are affiliated and some of them are not. For the purpose of > > this, we only captured the affiliations of the PPMC members. > > > > I did some quick analysis of the git log and found the following: > > > > % Commits by Hortonworkers: 79% > > > > % Contributors affiliated to Hortonworks: 42% > > > > In associating affiliation, I am being as generous as possible and > > including people who I know to work at Hortonworks who may or may not be > in > > the engineering organization. I know that some of these people are > > contributing to Metron in their spare time as independent open source > > contributions. > > > > > > Best, > > > > Casey > > > >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:03 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem. > >>>> > >>>> I will admit upfront that I am a Hortonworks employee, so there is > >>>> potential for bias. But I always try to wear the right hat, even when > my > >>>> position may not please my employer. > >>>> > >>>> As a mentor (to this and other podlings), I try to instill that ethic > >>>> during incubation and thereafter. > >>>> > >>>> In the Metron community I see some that share that ethic. They > selected > >> a > >>>> PMC Chair that gets it and I trust will serve the project well in that > >> role. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, the project is Hortonworks-heavy. But I think they are doing > things > >>>> right in terms of the Apache Way. I also intend to participate in the > >> PMC > >>>> to help ensure it remains that way. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Agreed - from what I have seen, Hortonworks as a company understands > the > >>> Apache Way and is able to ensure that it is held in open source > projects. > >>> I see no concerns with Metron graduating. > >> > >> Sure, but the question is not about whether or not HortonWorks > understands > >> the Apache Way. It is what happens to Metron if HortonWorks is no longer > >> interested in the project? > >> > >> Given the experience with OpenOffice I think we need to always ask this. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Dave > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -Taylor > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> This is a list of 24 of which 12 are Hortonworks. > >>>>> > >>>>> Can we assume that the other 12 of which 6 are PPMC are unaffiliated? > >>>>> > >>>>> What percentage of the commits are coming from Hortonworks affiliated > >>>> contributors? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Dave > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Of course, very fair question. Also, yes, the we have 36 committers > >> as > >>>> all > >>>>>> PPMC members are committers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The affiliations are as follows: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hortonworks: > >>>>>> * Sheetal Dolas (sheetal_dolas) > >>>>>> * Larry McCay (lmccay) > >>>>>> * P. Taylor Goetz (ptgoetz) > >>>>>> * Ryan Merriman (rmerriman) > >>>>>> * James Sirota (jsirota) > >>>>>> * Casey Stella (cstella) > >>>>>> * David Lyle (lyle) > >>>>>> * Nick Allen (nickallen) > >>>>>> * George Vetticaden (gvetticaden) > >>>>>> * Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli (vinodkv) > >>>>>> * Kiran Komaravolu (kirankom) > >>>>>> * Michael Perez (mperez) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cisco: > >>>>>> * Debo Dutta (ddutta) > >>>>>> * Discovery Gerdes (discovery) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rackspace: > >>>>>> * Oskar Zabik (smogg) > >>>>>> * Andrew Hartnett (dev_warlord) > >>>>>> * Paul Kehrer (reaperhulk) > >>>>>> * Sean Schulte (sirsean) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> B23: > >>>>>> * Mark Bittmann (mbittmann) > >>>>>> * Dave Hirko (dbhirko) > >>>>>> * Brad Kolarov (bjkolly) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mantech: > >>>>>> * Charles Porter (cporter) > >>>>>> * Ray Urciuoli (rurcioli) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fogbeam Labs: > >>>>>> * Phillip Rhodes (prhodes) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:34 PM, P. Taylor Goetz < > ptgo...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 7:38 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM P. Taylor Goetz < > ptgo...@gmail.com > >>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The community > has > >>>>>>> come a > >>>>>>>>> long way, learned to make solid releases, build a sustainable > >>>> community, > >>>>>>>>> and follow the Apache Way. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> One minor nit: The paddling status page is missing a few Apache > >> IDs, > >>>>>>> but I > >>>>>>>>> see them in the resolution, so it's an easy fix. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Paddlings are always out of sync :-P > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> One other nit - I'm not sure why you only have 6 committers. I > >> think > >>>> you > >>>>>>>> mean 30 committers (all PMC members are committers). Can you > >> provide > >>>> the > >>>>>>>> associations of PMC members and employers? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Metron PPMC, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Can you respond? 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