+1 -Taylor
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:43 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > > Just to provide, here's the proposed patch I have for the website > > Index: content/guides/ppmc.xml > =================================================================== > --- content/guides/ppmc.xml (revision 1780221) > +++ content/guides/ppmc.xml (working copy) > @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ > <section id="PPMC+Mail+List"> > <title>Private Mail List</title> > > - <p>A private mail list, named <em>project</em>-private, lets > + <p>A private mail list, named private@<em>project</em>, lets > the PPMC discuss confidential topics. > <em>Most communication should be on the Podling's dev list!</em> > The private list is used only for confidential discussions that > @@ -107,8 +107,12 @@ > <li> Project name and one-line summary.</li> > <li> Date of entry to the Incubator.</li> > <li> Top three items to resolve before graduation.</li> > + <li> Internal issues that may require IPMC or Board input</li> > + <li> How has the community changed</li> > + <li> How has the project changed</li> > + <li> How mature the project feels they are</li> > </ul> > - > + > <p>Here are the points to be addressed:</p> > <ul> > <li>Is there anything that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:41 AM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:40 AM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I'm fine with 1 and 3, but 2 gives me pause. I like the idea of the >> maturity model, but is it yet another burden on mentors? >> >> >> I would hope not. How often are mentors writing the reports for podlings, >> vs pushing that the podlings write the reports themselves? I guess its a >> factor of how embedded within the podling that mentor is. And granted, I'm >> not pushing that its the ComDev Apache Project Maturity Model [1] being >> followed >> >> [1]: >> http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html >> >> >> >> If we are trying to increase mentor engagement, we probably don't want to >> set too high a bar. >> >> -Taylor >> >>> On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> The Incubator PMC has received feedback from the board that changes may >>> need to be made to the structure of our report. Specifically, there is >>> confusion from the board members over how podlings get classified. There >>> is also a request to increase and improve mentor feedback on podling >>> reports. Based on this input, I would like to propose the following >>> changes to our report format. I would like to try to implement this for >>> the March report, if not before then. >>> >>> 1. Eliminate the podling summary section of the report. It shouldn't be >> on >>> the report manager to classify each podling. We have begun leveraging a >>> maturity model for podlings, while its not required to fulfill it serves >> as >>> an equivalent to this section. The list of podlings who failed to report >>> shall remain. >>> >>> 2. Add a "Podling Maturity Assessment" to the individual podling reports. >>> This would give a clear opportunity for each podling to describe how they >>> are doing, perhaps compared to the maturity model or our classic >> categories. >>> >>> 3. Change the mentor sign off section to include a per-mentor comment. >>> E.g. instead of the current: >>> >>> [ ](podling) mentor1 >>> [ ](podling) mentor2 >>> [ ](podling) mentor3 >>> >>> It would be: >>> >>> [ ](podling) mentor1 >>> Comments: >>> [ ](podling) mentor2 >>> Comments: >>> [ ](podling) mentor3 >>> Comments: >>> >>> And rename Shepherd/Mentor notes: to just "Shepherd notes:" >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> John >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
