Just to provide, here's the proposed patch I have for the website Index: content/guides/ppmc.xml =================================================================== --- content/guides/ppmc.xml (revision 1780221) +++ content/guides/ppmc.xml (working copy) @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ <section id="PPMC+Mail+List"> <title>Private Mail List</title>
- <p>A private mail list, named <em>project</em>-private, lets + <p>A private mail list, named private@<em>project</em>, lets the PPMC discuss confidential topics. <em>Most communication should be on the Podling's dev list!</em> The private list is used only for confidential discussions that @@ -107,8 +107,12 @@ <li> Project name and one-line summary.</li> <li> Date of entry to the Incubator.</li> <li> Top three items to resolve before graduation.</li> + <li> Internal issues that may require IPMC or Board input</li> + <li> How has the community changed</li> + <li> How has the project changed</li> + <li> How mature the project feels they are</li> </ul> - + <p>Here are the points to be addressed:</p> <ul> <li>Is there anything that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:41 AM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:40 AM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'm fine with 1 and 3, but 2 gives me pause. I like the idea of the > maturity model, but is it yet another burden on mentors? > > > I would hope not. How often are mentors writing the reports for podlings, > vs pushing that the podlings write the reports themselves? I guess its a > factor of how embedded within the podling that mentor is. And granted, I'm > not pushing that its the ComDev Apache Project Maturity Model [1] being > followed > > [1]: > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > > > If we are trying to increase mentor engagement, we probably don't want to > set too high a bar. > > -Taylor > > > On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > All, > > > > The Incubator PMC has received feedback from the board that changes may > > need to be made to the structure of our report. Specifically, there is > > confusion from the board members over how podlings get classified. There > > is also a request to increase and improve mentor feedback on podling > > reports. Based on this input, I would like to propose the following > > changes to our report format. I would like to try to implement this for > > the March report, if not before then. > > > > 1. Eliminate the podling summary section of the report. It shouldn't be > on > > the report manager to classify each podling. We have begun leveraging a > > maturity model for podlings, while its not required to fulfill it serves > as > > an equivalent to this section. The list of podlings who failed to report > > shall remain. > > > > 2. Add a "Podling Maturity Assessment" to the individual podling reports. > > This would give a clear opportunity for each podling to describe how they > > are doing, perhaps compared to the maturity model or our classic > categories. > > > > 3. Change the mentor sign off section to include a per-mentor comment. > > E.g. instead of the current: > > > > [ ](podling) mentor1 > > [ ](podling) mentor2 > > [ ](podling) mentor3 > > > > It would be: > > > > [ ](podling) mentor1 > > Comments: > > [ ](podling) mentor2 > > Comments: > > [ ](podling) mentor3 > > Comments: > > > > And rename Shepherd/Mentor notes: to just "Shepherd notes:" > > > > Thoughts? > > > > John > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >