> On Oct 30, 2016, at 8:04 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > > Craig, > > Your definition matches my definition from 3 years ago, which I had used > for a long while until someone told me I'm wrong. Are you on legal > discuss? Let's move this over there.
Even better, there is already a JIRA for what appears to be relevant to this issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-198# Folks on legal-discuss can tune into that discussion, and may not be looking at the Beam vote thread. Craig > > On Oct 30, 2016 10:50, "Craig Russell" <craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote: > > >> On Oct 30, 2016, at 6:03 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 10:53 PM Craig Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 1:54 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>>> -1 due to the kinesis library issue. >>>>> >>>>> Can you provide a bit more detail on what the objection is with the >>>>> kinesis library? Given it's optional and not being distributed I > thought >>>>> this would cover it? [1] >>>>> >>>> >>>> I obviously have a different take than you. I'm more worried about the >>>> derived works aspect of the license as it stands. >>> >>> What part of the release is a “derived work”? >>> >> >> I consider the library to be the derived work (I know on the JIRA there's >> some discussion over that). >> >> I'm still a bit lost on how Cat X licenses can be included as > dependencies, >> seems to go against https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#category-x >> > Here’s my take: > > I believe the relevant part of legal are > https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#prohibited > and https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#optional > > Just to be clear on terminology in this use case: The kinesis library is > category-x and cannot be distributed by an Apache project under any > circumstances. And cannot be put into source control. > > The spark-kinesis module that was written by the project and does not > contain any library code is optional and depends on the library. Building > the module dynamically links to the library using the build tools. The > module can be distributed in source and convenience binary forms. > > There are no derived works regarding the library and module. > > Craig >> >> >>> >>> Craig >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Justin >>>>> >>>>> 1. http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> Craig L Russell >>> c...@apache.org >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> > > Craig L Russell > c...@apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org Craig L Russell c...@apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
