On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> But if you are thinking 100 people, I'd try to get it down to 40-ish. Seems like a very random number. In the case of NetBeans, that would mean we'd have few others on the list than those from Oracle, which is not what we want -- instead, we want to reflect the various communities (Oracle, NetBeans Platform companies, NetBeans plugin developers, NetBeans Dream Team members, etc) in our list and yes that's going to result in a number larger than 40. Gj On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > IMO, the only things to consider for the initial committers list are: > > If you leave someone off the list: > - it takes bit longer to get their next commit into the repo. > - that person may be have hurt feelings as to why some other person is on > the list. > (so don't leave off the person who can quickly fix important security bugs) > > If you put someone on the list: > - They may never contribute what they said they might contribute > - More administrative work for the ASF secretary. > - You clean up the deadwood at graduation. > > As Apache Flex entered the incubator, we had a 40 person initial committer > list which was considered quite large at the time. Only one person > besides me is still active almost five years later. About 12 never showed > up because with the move to Apache their paid job role changed and they > ran out of time to commit anything. If I had to do it again, I would > probably still have the same 40 people. So what if there was deadwood. > We cleaned some up at graduation, and then over 4 years after graduation, > folks faded away and new folks came in. > > But if you are thinking 100 people, I'd try to get it down to 40-ish. > > My 2 cents, > -Alex > > > On 9/24/16, 11:59 PM, "John McDonnell" <mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > > > >I am a netbeans user that has been following this thread since the > >proposal was announced and I am a little fascinated with this whole > >process, it seems rather interesting... > > > >Although this initial committer list seems to be a sticking point, but > >from reading this page: > >https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#committers I'm not > >sure why it is... > > > >I have contributed defect fixes for JClouds in the past, and from what > >I see on this project is that there's an GitHub repo that allows > >people to contribute PR's, but theres also a ASF repo, which the > >contributors actually merge in the PRs from GitHub into the "hidden" > >ASF repo... Is this how every ASF project runs? and is this how > >Apache Netbeans would run? Because if so, do you want to give a wide > >list of committers initially? > > > >I would have thought it would make sense to keep the number to a group > >of trusted people that Netbeans/GJ trust up front to commit PRs into > >the main repo, and to make short term decisions. Then if a > >developer/contributor shows themselves to be a useful part of the > >community then you can quickly vote to change their status... > > > >Anyways I'm going to go back to lurking in the background... > > > >Regards > > > >John > > > > > >On 25 September 2016 at 07:40, Jochen Theodorou <blackd...@gmx.org> > wrote: > >> On 24.09.2016 15:10, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Jochen Theodorou > >>> > >>> For me the problem is that without plugins you have only the bare > >>> plattform > >>>> > >>>> and no IDE. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> No, that's not true at all. The NetBeans plugins are of various kinds. > >>> There are plugins that are listed in the Plugin Manager by default, > >>>these > >>> are the standard functionalities of NetBeans IDE, i.e., these are all > >>>from > >>> the NetBeans source code and will be part of the Apache donation. > >> > >> > >> > >> ok, wrong knowledge on my side. From hat I have seen in the repository > >>it > >> should be fine then. I have also seen some possibly license critical > >>stuff > >> there, but that is for during incubation to sort out > >> > >> > >> bye Jochen > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >John > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > >
